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Re: Show HN: A Firefox extension to leave comments on any URL

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Post by catacombs »

skrowl wrote: post #80
phoe-krk wrote: post #5

This sounds similar to the (in)famous Dissenter comment functionality. What are the differences?

Dissenter is pretty great for commenting on things that have heavy-handed censorship, like political YouTube videos. They recently created their own browser (a fork of Brave with all of the BAT sh*tcoin stuff removed) when Google and Firefox both censored their extension and it seems like it's lighter and faster than Chrome, at least in my testing.

> Dissenter is pretty great for commenting on things that have heavy-handed censorship, like political YouTube videos.

From what I've seen, Dissenter is just a way for people who "believe in free speech" to use the N words in comments without repercussions.

Re: Show HN: A Firefox extension to leave comments on any URL

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Post by catacombs »

iamnotacrook wrote: post #55
deca6cda37d0 wrote: post #32

How do you keep all the toxic and evil comments out? How do you give website owners a way to opt out?

Not having a website,I guess. It's not their system to opt out of. Perhaps though some will try to get comments removed by disputing their accuracy (data protection act/gdpr in the UK), or the use of their URL for copyright reasons (I seem to recall this being an issue on one of the previous manifestations of this idea).

The likelihood for millions of users to use something like and comment on highly trafficked websites seems low.

Re: Show HN: A Firefox extension to leave comments on any URL

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Post by [deleted] »

nostalgk wrote: post #146
celdon25 wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I consider myself pretty open to ideas across the political spectrum and even I could not stand being there for even an hour. Gab is what happens when you combine global centralization with extreme selection bias (people who are excluded or unwelcome from the global community platforms). It's like prison but for the Internet.

Prison, but full of people who want to be there.

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Re: Show HN: A Firefox extension to leave comments on any URL

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Post by coldsnap427 »

6cd6beb wrote: post #138
pmarreck wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm already nauseous just browsing this, WTF? Is this where people are headed? Extreme tribalism in the unmoderated portions of the Internet where you're either "a known SJW" or "a Nazi" with no room in between? If so we're fucked.

It's definitely like that on the internet; a lot of people on both sides of the US political spectrum seem to think there are two problems: 1 - Their chosen political party is not pushing far left/right enough 2 - The opposing party is obviously criminally bent on destroying the country. Actually maybe three problems; the third being that "centrists" (anyone who isn't radicalized one way or the other) haven't come ou…

> I guess that might bleed into real-world politics, but it's unfortunate.

> All I can say is prepare for some hard times, followed by the US not having the geopolitical 1st place. Maybe it's too stark a warning but unless we start to see each other as something other than demons hell-bent on destroying all good in the world, I don't see how anything productive is going to happen.

This discourse has certainly bled into the real-world politics, especially in Congress. Throw in the Internet's lawless landscape, a reckless leader, extremism and nationalism, and you have a powder keg ready to explode.

During the Democratic debate last night, many candidates said climate change, China, Russia and even Trump were the greatest geopolitical threat to the United States. What none of them said was the continuing divide between the right and left in this country, which, within at least another two or three decades, could escalate to a full-blown conflict.

Many people scoff at the idea of another civil war: "Not possible" or "Not in this era." I'm worried we're sowing the seeds for a future conflict, and other countries, like China and Russia, eagerly await for the shining beacon of hope, which the United States boasts to be, will tear itself apart from within.

Re: Show HN: A Firefox extension to leave comments on any URL

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Post by catacombs »

s9w wrote: post #45
avip wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does this extension give any party the power to unpublish not-legally-allowed content?

I have no idea. But I would assume they would comply with the law in order to not get sued?

One person made the extension. It wouldn't take much for a company to threaten a lawsuit to take the extension out of operation.

Re: Show HN: A Firefox extension to leave comments on any URL

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Post by jothezero »

tetizera wrote: post #68
jothezero wrote: post #64

I've built the same on chrome not so long ago. Mine is probably uglier than yours. I support you because the comment blocking hysteria these days is getting a bit too much. Let me know if you would like to see what I built on chrome.

Where are the comments stored?

firebase, I encrypt the data with a hardcoded key in the extension. Mostly a prototype.

Never launched.

Have a look : https://github.com/JonathanFillion/chat-extension

Re: Show HN: A Firefox extension to leave comments on any URL

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Post by fouc »

pmarreck wrote: post #127
sascha_sl wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://witches.live/@anna/102343755810317766 (hn mods, if this is too political, it's okay to delete)

I'm already nauseous just browsing this, WTF? Is this where people are headed? Extreme tribalism in the unmoderated portions of the Internet where you're either "a known SJW" or "a Nazi" with no room in between? If so we're fucked.

Looks like it's the more modern twist of script kiddies on irc in the 90s.

Re: Show HN: A Firefox extension to leave comments on any URL

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Post by brokenmachine »

apostacy wrote: post #130
mehdix wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The technical problem here is way easier to solve than the social one. You'd want to avoid having hatespeech or some attack being planned on URLs of your blog. This is by definition a tricky problem. Should moderation follow us to the remotest and most deserted corners of the web? Should prying eyes follow humans all the time, even on this abstract ocean of digital content? On technical side I think we'd need some so…

> You'd want to avoid having hatespeech or some attack being planned on URLs of your blog. How could you possibly expect to control people saying things about your blog on a remote webserver? There is no solution that is not worse than the speech. This is not a problem that needs solving.

There was an interesting decentralized project that I found out about here on hn that has an interesting solution to that.

It's called Aether, and it only supports text. Each node stores 6 months of all posts. Every person votes for their own moderators of communities so you can basically choose your own moderation filter that you get.

I didn't personally like the idea that it has amnesia after 6 months, but surely eventually clients would support saving your own threads to keep locally.

So you could subscribe to your own trusted adblocking/flagging list.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18370208

Re: Show HN: A Firefox extension to leave comments on any URL

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Post by brokenmachine »

floatingatoll wrote: post #145
kristopolous wrote: post #13

These were generally called metaweb tech when they were popular about 15-20 years ago. The problem was that everyone had to have a particular author's plugin to see the extra content. Some of them were better than others, allowing cross referencing, citation insertion, and a number of other sophisticated features. I don't know if they still are around. Sites like reddit and hn are really inverted versions of this con…

Is solving this "basic problem" ethical? The implied assumption here is that it's a "basic problem" that most sites do not have a readily-discoverable public commentary board. Sites such as Reddit, HN, and Facebook are popular , readily-discoverable public commentary boards about other sites. This much is true. However, it is incorrect to say that the absence of this is a "basic problem" as stated above. Given the pa…

The printing press has also been nothing but trouble.
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