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Re: Show HN: A Firefox extension to leave comments on any URL

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Post by s9w »

cachehit wrote: post #59
s9w wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well they have to, as it is law. I specifically wrote about legal speech. Extensions like this (or much more popular: dissenter) allows people to exercise that right on sites that limit their free speech.

Don't refer to freedom of speech like something everyone is obliged to provide. That's not what it means. https://xkcd.com/1357/

That's orthogonal to what I said. I do have the right to say controversial things (at least I would have if I would be American, but let's assume that). Sites can limit that and delete comments they don't like - that's ok! But I am still allowed to use external software to still exercise that right.

Re: Show HN: A Firefox extension to leave comments on any URL

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Post by Crinus »

balzss wrote: post #36
Crinus wrote: post #22

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Yeah, perhaps a better solution would be for the comments to be stored in something like ipfs? Though if i understand ipfs right, it works like torrents, meaning that unpopular comments will disappear over time.

This is the thing that I was thinking about. That a blockchain-like solution would better fit the goal of the extension. And I don't think this because I worry about censorship or free speech. I think the main benefit of this extension is that it creates an option to comment on sites where to creator of the site didn't make commenting possible. However I do worry about moderation and trolls. Allowing people to make a…

Yeah AFAIK it works like torrents.

About the moderation, etc, this is really opt-in so you use it by your own choice and by "going in" you pretty much have to expect that like any other place where moderation is light or non-existent you'll see stuff you dislike.

Re: Show HN: A Firefox extension to leave comments on any URL

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Post by syx »

rtpg wrote: post #43
kristopolous wrote: post #13

These were generally called metaweb tech when they were popular about 15-20 years ago. The problem was that everyone had to have a particular author's plugin to see the extra content. Some of them were better than others, allowing cross referencing, citation insertion, and a number of other sophisticated features. I don't know if they still are around. Sites like reddit and hn are really inverted versions of this con…

I wrote a chrome extension that went the opposite direction: hit the extension button and you would get a list of hacker news and reddit submissions for that URL. Was super useful for finding some cool comments on a page I’ve since moved to Firefox and gave up on the extension, but it might be an easy port...

you just described exactly what I've done a year ago [1] I always promised myself to rewrite it for Firefox but was too lazy.

[1] https://github.com/syxanash/commentdat

Re: Show HN: A Firefox extension to leave comments on any URL

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Post by davidcollantes »

bArray wrote: post #44

I recommend people checkout Dissenter [1] if they are interested in this, it has quite the user base already (almost a million users late 2018 [2]). Some of the discussions had on there have been really quite interesting. My motivation for using their comments add-on is mostly to avoid tracking, although it's quite annoying they rely on Cloudflare. On a different note, the Wikipedia article on Gab/Dissenter is quite…

> Gab's Apple Developer account has been unfairly terminated by Apple.

Without any explanation. First time I heard of Gab, and/or Dissenter. Unsigned app? No, thank you.

Re: Show HN: A Firefox extension to leave comments on any URL

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Post by tetizera »

jothezero wrote: post #64

I've built the same on chrome not so long ago. Mine is probably uglier than yours. I support you because the comment blocking hysteria these days is getting a bit too much. Let me know if you would like to see what I built on chrome.

Where are the comments stored?

Re: Show HN: A Firefox extension to leave comments on any URL

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Post by EvanAnderson »

mgkimsal wrote: post #63

Wow... I feel old, remembering 'third voice'. Maybe even older, because no one else mentioned it... ? https://www.wired.com/1999/05/readers-speak-with-third-voice...

That's exactly who I was thinking, so you're not the only one feeling old here.

Third Voice was an idea ahead of its time. Blogs ended-up being the meta-web, I suppose. They're not as satisfying to me as inline annotations.

Re: Show HN: A Firefox extension to leave comments on any URL

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Post by julienreszka »

cachehit wrote: post #59
s9w wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well they have to, as it is law. I specifically wrote about legal speech. Extensions like this (or much more popular: dissenter) allows people to exercise that right on sites that limit their free speech.

Don't refer to freedom of speech like something everyone is obliged to provide. That's not what it means. https://xkcd.com/1357/

That exactly what it means
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