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Re: Show HN: A Firefox extension to leave comments on any URL

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Post by writepub »

sascha_sl wrote: post #113
skrowl wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dissenter is pretty great for commenting on things that have heavy-handed censorship, like political YouTube videos. They recently created their own browser (a fork of Brave with all of the BAT sh*tcoin stuff removed) when Google and Firefox both censored their extension and it seems like it's lighter and faster than Chrome, at least in my testing.

I requested the Gab Mastodon fork code a week or so ago. Normally worded email. Nothing antagonistic there. I know how to be professional. 4 days ago, CTO of Gab calling me an "SJW" on his Gab feed. Thanks, I'll consider it a certification. From the grand wizard of Gab Tech himself. /s There's plenty of other insanely toxic content on Gab. But if you're signed up to it and don't see the issue... there's really no poi…

There's no evidence he was referring to you, as no handle is cited in his response. Not that I'm taking sides, but evidence actually matters

Re: Show HN: A Firefox extension to leave comments on any URL

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Post by celdon25 »

davidcollantes wrote: post #66
bArray wrote: post #44

I recommend people checkout Dissenter [1] if they are interested in this, it has quite the user base already (almost a million users late 2018 [2]). Some of the discussions had on there have been really quite interesting. My motivation for using their comments add-on is mostly to avoid tracking, although it's quite annoying they rely on Cloudflare. On a different note, the Wikipedia article on Gab/Dissenter is quite…

> Gab's Apple Developer account has been unfairly terminated by Apple. Without any explanation. First time I heard of Gab, and/or Dissenter. Unsigned app? No, thank you.

I can provide a possible explanation. As a former developer of a social mobile app, I'm aware that Apple's app policies require that any social communication features also come with human moderators (the definition of human moderator is up for interpretation). In any case, that is counter to Gab's core philosophy.

Re: Show HN: A Firefox extension to leave comments on any URL

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Post by celdon25 »

52-6F-62 wrote: post #117
nostalgk wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just take a look at https://gab.com/popular and you can make your judgement in less than a minute.

That was... ugly. And I've seen it before. It seems worse now. I stopped reading when I got to "our race replaced by violent low-iq brown" . (in case anyone wanted to dispute the existence: https://gab.com/HankRearden/posts/MHdqTE1hWDFDTTVTR3Biak1vel... ) That's enough bull for today. Fair warning to anyone else who decides to indulge curiosity.

I consider myself pretty open to ideas across the political spectrum and even I could not stand being there for even an hour. Gab is what happens when you combine global centralization with extreme selection bias (people who are excluded or unwelcome from the global community platforms). It's like prison but for the Internet.

Re: Show HN: A Firefox extension to leave comments on any URL

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Post by floatingatoll »

kristopolous wrote: post #13

These were generally called metaweb tech when they were popular about 15-20 years ago. The problem was that everyone had to have a particular author's plugin to see the extra content. Some of them were better than others, allowing cross referencing, citation insertion, and a number of other sophisticated features. I don't know if they still are around. Sites like reddit and hn are really inverted versions of this con…

Is solving this "basic problem" ethical?

The implied assumption here is that it's a "basic problem" that most sites do not have a readily-discoverable public commentary board.

Sites such as Reddit, HN, and Facebook are popular, readily-discoverable public commentary boards about other sites. This much is true. However, it is incorrect to say that the absence of this is a "basic problem" as stated above. Given the past few years* of events and discoveries about the human impacts of these public comment boards, it may be that we incorrectly solved a "problem" that turned out to be a feature keeping humanity from harming itself with its own speech.

* three examples, cited by paraphrase: "speech encouraging harm to others"; "coordinated worldwide attacks upon individuals"; "like counts may do psychological harm"

Re: Show HN: A Firefox extension to leave comments on any URL

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Post by nostalgk »

celdon25 wrote: post #143
52-6F-62 wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That was... ugly. And I've seen it before. It seems worse now. I stopped reading when I got to "our race replaced by violent low-iq brown" . (in case anyone wanted to dispute the existence: https://gab.com/HankRearden/posts/MHdqTE1hWDFDTTVTR3Biak1vel... ) That's enough bull for today. Fair warning to anyone else who decides to indulge curiosity.

I consider myself pretty open to ideas across the political spectrum and even I could not stand being there for even an hour. Gab is what happens when you combine global centralization with extreme selection bias (people who are excluded or unwelcome from the global community platforms). It's like prison but for the Internet.

Prison, but full of people who want to be there.

Re: Show HN: A Firefox extension to leave comments on any URL

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Post by stOneskull »

drak0n1c wrote: post #125
phoe-krk wrote: post #5

This sounds similar to the (in)famous Dissenter comment functionality. What are the differences?

Dissenter was banned from Firefox a few months ago.

You can still install the extension from the dissenter website

Re: Show HN: A Firefox extension to leave comments on any URL

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Post by WindowsFon4life »

pmarreck wrote: post #126
mehdix wrote: post #92

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The technical problem here is way easier to solve than the social one. You'd want to avoid having hatespeech or some attack being planned on URLs of your blog. This is by definition a tricky problem. Should moderation follow us to the remotest and most deserted corners of the web? Should prying eyes follow humans all the time, even on this abstract ocean of digital content? On technical side I think we'd need some so…

> You'd want to avoid having hatespeech I have zero confidence in automated hatespeech blocking ever since I had comments blocked multiple times for fighting racists with reason (which is, honestly, the only way it will be eliminated, just like it worked against homophobia and interracial marriage... I wonder how long it will take before we realize that if you ban it, you martyr it, and you merely send it off to fest…

Hate is a transitive verb.

Re: Show HN: A Firefox extension to leave comments on any URL

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Post by WindowsFon4life »

sascha_sl wrote: post #113
skrowl wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dissenter is pretty great for commenting on things that have heavy-handed censorship, like political YouTube videos. They recently created their own browser (a fork of Brave with all of the BAT sh*tcoin stuff removed) when Google and Firefox both censored their extension and it seems like it's lighter and faster than Chrome, at least in my testing.

I requested the Gab Mastodon fork code a week or so ago. Normally worded email. Nothing antagonistic there. I know how to be professional. 4 days ago, CTO of Gab calling me an "SJW" on his Gab feed. Thanks, I'll consider it a certification. From the grand wizard of Gab Tech himself. /s There's plenty of other insanely toxic content on Gab. But if you're signed up to it and don't see the issue... there's really no poi…

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