Google is now a "recommendation engine" not a search engine... I type something in and it ignores the words and presents something it thinks I might like. For good measure, it prepends a word-spaghetti advert that's optimised on-the-fly to maximise confusion with the missing useful search result. When I accidentally click on it then they'll get paid.
Ask HN: Is Google becoming useless as a search engine, or is it just me?
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Re: Ask HN: Is Google becoming useless as a search engine, or is it just me?
#92Amazing. You typed in your query and pretty much always found something relevant.
Now the standard procedure is to open the first 10 results in a new tab and weed through them.
Re: Ask HN: Is Google becoming useless as a search engine, or is it just me?
#93Google is increasingly useless, but there is a Garbage In Garbage Out aspect given that the vast bulk of what they're indexing today is junk. Most of the problems appear, superficially at least, to be consequences of advertising. There seems to be a growing chunk of automated site propagation as well (90% identical content but with keywords/names/etc tweaked), perhaps for scams, perhaps again for advertising. There m…
Some trivia: Sergey Brin and Lawrence Page wrote about this in their 1998 paper "The Anatomy of a Large-Scale Hypertextual Web Search Engine". [1]
8 Appendix A: Advertising and Mixed Motives
Currently, the predominant business model for commercial search engines is advertising. The goals of
the advertising business model do not always correspond to providing quality search to users. For
example, in our prototype search engine one of the top results for cellular phone is "The Effect of
Cellular Phone Use Upon Driver Attention", a study which explains in great detail the distractions and
risk associated with conversing on a cell phone while driving. This search result came up first because
of its high importance as judged by the PageRank algorithm, an approximation of citation importance on
the web [Page, 98]. It is clear that a search engine which was taking money for showing cellular phone
ads would have difficulty justifying the page that our system returned to its paying advertisers. For this
type of reason and historical experience with other media [Bagdikian 83], we expect that advertising
funded search engines will be inherently biased towards the advertisers and away from the needs of the
consumers
They just did not know how destructive this conflict of interests would later be.P.S. I'm a happy user of https://kagi.com! Definitely worth a Netflix sub per month, at least for programmers. :)
Re: Ask HN: Is Google becoming useless as a search engine, or is it just me?
#94Sometimes I worry about how long the "site:reddit.com" gravy train will last... It is getting too hard to make the Internet useful these days.
I think that some companies have already caught on. I've seen suspicious recommendation patterns on Reddit before, where one product will be relentlessly mentioned, to the point where a naive searcher would think it's the "clear choice". But this could also be astroturfing. For example, yesterday I was looking for a good toaster oven. The _only_ brand that gets recommended consistently is Breville, on multiple differ…
Re: Ask HN: Is Google becoming useless as a search engine, or is it just me?
#95this is everything you need to know for the current state: https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/gen-bypassing-google-tikto... I personally do something similar, pretty much all my searches have 'reddit' as an extra keyword.
Re: Ask HN: Is Google becoming useless as a search engine, or is it just me?
#96This discussion repeats, with a lot of comments, roughly once per month. Here's a sample: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30347719 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29772136 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29392702 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29886423 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32209067 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31093439 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31427996 https://…
Re: Ask HN: Is Google becoming useless as a search engine, or is it just me?
#97Google is now a "recommendation engine" not a search engine... I type something in and it ignores the words and presents something it thinks I might like. For good measure, it prepends a word-spaghetti advert that's optimised on-the-fly to maximise confusion with the missing useful search result. When I accidentally click on it then they'll get paid.
Oh, that reminds me. How long has Youtube's search been so utterly useless and downright terrible? Whatever I enter, it interrupts the search results with recommendations THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH MY QUERY every 5 results. What the fuck, Google. Are you doing this on purpose? Did somebody piss in your cereal and you decided to collectively punish all of us? If that's not the case, who's responsible so I can go ove…
Re: Ask HN: Is Google becoming useless as a search engine, or is it just me?
#98Been using ddg for years and my use of !g has reduced considerably because it doesn’t result in better (but often worse) results. Google stopped being an innovative company many years ago. They’re in their Ballmer era. They’ll hopefully get a Nadella soon but not before it gets worse.
Re: Ask HN: Is Google becoming useless as a search engine, or is it just me?
#99Re: Ask HN: Is Google becoming useless as a search engine, or is it just me?
#100Google is now a "recommendation engine" not a search engine... I type something in and it ignores the words and presents something it thinks I might like. For good measure, it prepends a word-spaghetti advert that's optimised on-the-fly to maximise confusion with the missing useful search result. When I accidentally click on it then they'll get paid.
I also use Google in the same way. Google is really amazing as a recommendation engine for finding keywords. Then you just have to get those keywords and put them in a real search engine.