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The Israeli stock market is at a high, GDP per capita is growing, etc. I am not Israeli, just giving the other side of the doom and gloom https://tradingeconomics.com/israel/stock-market
Yeah but how much is due to defense/cybersecurity being such a larger percentage of Israeli GDP & exports than any other country
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> I don’t agree with the statement that corporations are machines to absorb money, behind corporations there are people and people must have morale. This is covered by the principle of the diffusion of responsibility. One person may have morals but spread over many, the entire structure does not. Those corporations that do have morals are outcompeted by those that don't, in terms of amount of money made, so over time…
I hope time and good people/consumers will prove your theory wrong.
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It's ridiculous that the person that replied to you got flagged for pointing out the deaths that happened on Oct 7th that started this war. Either have a discussion or don't.
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Europe buys how much oil/gas from Russia? What income does Russia's economy run on to fund the war? Your argument doesn't make sense. You should see just as many protests over governments funding Russia as we see against Israel if what you say is true.
you don't understand, it's different /s
It's also different when then ratio of civilian to military deaths is multiple orders of magnitude higher, and ~5x higher in absolute terms despite Gaza having ~5-10% the population of Ukraine
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The political unrest comes from the West is actively supporting and funding the ones causing the civilian deaths in Gaza Whereas they've already contributed billions to supporting Ukraine You'd see 10x the outrage if for some reason the US was providing Russia the munitions they use on Ukrainian civilians
Europe buys how much oil/gas from Russia? What income does Russia's economy run on to fund the war? Your argument doesn't make sense. You should see just as many protests over governments funding Russia as we see against Israel if what you say is true.
In the case of Israel, western governments (particularly US) are directly transferring arms and military support used against the civilians
This is paid for by taxpayers who receive no economic benefits whatsoever, with minimal negative economic impact from decoupling
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For you first question I didn’t have an answer, so I did some research and based on what I read, it seems a lot of expansion, land seizure and legalisation of unauthorised outposts in addition to new expansion plans for existing settlements. For hostages it seems that neither side wants them to be released, hamas wants to keep them to bargain and Israel uses them to have a reason to continue bombing Gaza. Any Palesti…
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you don't understand, it's different /s
Yes it's obviously different than directly supplying munitions as uncompensated "aid" It's also different when then ratio of civilian to military deaths is multiple orders of magnitude higher, and ~5x higher in absolute terms despite Gaza having ~5-10% the population of Ukraine
about ratio:
- i'll suggest you to take a look at wiki page of siege mariupol. iirc it's up to 75,000 civilian casualties in 3 months
- ukraine actively evacuates civilians.
- hamas said that that well being of civilians is problem of israel and unrwa and actively using civilians as human shields. here is 10 years old analysis that says that it does so in order to shape western opinion https://stratcomcoe.org/cuploads/pfiles/hamas_human_shields....
- ukrainians from day one of war were allowed to seek refuge in europe
- egypt build second wall on border with gaza over past year in order to prevent any refugees crossing and europe talking about any possibility of evacuation of civilians as of ethnic cleansing.
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Survivorship bias. Every Palestinian faction that advocated for peace or a two state solution no longer exists. What happened to them? I don't know, but their land is now claimed as a part of Israel. I don't believe they gave it up willingly. Back when people were debating genocide, one of the arguments was that there's more Palestinians than ever before. It used to be ~1 mil over the various states of Palestine, now…
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