The Israeli stock market is at a high, GDP per capita is growing, etc. I am not Israeli, just giving the other side of the doom and gloom https://tradingeconomics.com/israel/stock-market
Ask HN: Has the Gaza war affected the HN crowd?
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Re: Ask HN: Has the Gaza war affected the HN crowd?
#52Russia's invasion of Ukraine, mass kidnappings of children, etc have had much more impact on me. So many people defending Russia, trying to justify Russia's position, or wave it away. If we can't take care of people in the heart of Europe we definitely can't begin to touch things in the middle east. I don't understand why so many in the west get upset by the Gaza war but are so indifferent/don't care about Ukraine or…
Whereas they've already contributed billions to supporting Ukraine
You'd see 10x the outrage if for some reason the US was providing Russia the munitions they use on Ukrainian civilians
Re: Ask HN: Has the Gaza war affected the HN crowd?
#53Russia's invasion of Ukraine, mass kidnappings of children, etc have had much more impact on me. So many people defending Russia, trying to justify Russia's position, or wave it away. If we can't take care of people in the heart of Europe we definitely can't begin to touch things in the middle east. I don't understand why so many in the west get upset by the Gaza war but are so indifferent/don't care about Ukraine or…
The political unrest comes from the West is actively supporting and funding the ones causing the civilian deaths in Gaza Whereas they've already contributed billions to supporting Ukraine You'd see 10x the outrage if for some reason the US was providing Russia the munitions they use on Ukrainian civilians
With regards to ukraine, billions contributed are mostly due to personal interest of europe: it cheaper to make ukrainians fight russia than deal with it by itself in case it will decide to reunite with baltics for example
Re: Ask HN: Has the Gaza war affected the HN crowd?
#54Russia's invasion of Ukraine, mass kidnappings of children, etc have had much more impact on me. So many people defending Russia, trying to justify Russia's position, or wave it away. If we can't take care of people in the heart of Europe we definitely can't begin to touch things in the middle east. I don't understand why so many in the west get upset by the Gaza war but are so indifferent/don't care about Ukraine or…
The political unrest comes from the West is actively supporting and funding the ones causing the civilian deaths in Gaza Whereas they've already contributed billions to supporting Ukraine You'd see 10x the outrage if for some reason the US was providing Russia the munitions they use on Ukrainian civilians
Re: Ask HN: Has the Gaza war affected the HN crowd?
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Yes all recent wars, but the comment was on a question related to Gaza. Still gaza war feels different, maybe because it’s almost streamed live on social media platforms by the directly impacted people? I don’t agree with the statement that corporations are machines to absorb money, behind corporations there are people and people must have morale.
It feels different because as horrible as other conflicts are they at least have a military objective. For example Russian invasion of Ukraine is horrible but I can see some strategic purpose to it for Russia. Gaza just feels like a Genocide.
Re: Ask HN: Has the Gaza war affected the HN crowd?
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The political unrest comes from the West is actively supporting and funding the ones causing the civilian deaths in Gaza Whereas they've already contributed billions to supporting Ukraine You'd see 10x the outrage if for some reason the US was providing Russia the munitions they use on Ukrainian civilians
Europe buys how much oil/gas from Russia? What income does Russia's economy run on to fund the war? Your argument doesn't make sense. You should see just as many protests over governments funding Russia as we see against Israel if what you say is true.
Re: Ask HN: Has the Gaza war affected the HN crowd?
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It feels different because as horrible as other conflicts are they at least have a military objective. For example Russian invasion of Ukraine is horrible but I can see some strategic purpose to it for Russia. Gaza just feels like a Genocide.
It's ridiculous that the person that replied to you got flagged for pointing out the deaths that happened on Oct 7th that started this war. Either have a discussion or don't.
Re: Ask HN: Has the Gaza war affected the HN crowd?
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Extremist groups in Israel existed since 1940s (before its establishment) or even before … And the actions of Israel in the past 30 years, and affirmations from its leaders don’t seem to be moving toward the OSLO accords, otherwise why building all those settlements in the west-bank? It just doesn’t make sense. anyway who cares about the past I am more interested in the future: 1) In your opinion how all this crisis…
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For hostages it seems that neither side wants them to be released, hamas wants to keep them to bargain and Israel uses them to have a reason to continue bombing Gaza.
Any Palestinian government should have full authority on its land, people, resources and financies, I agree that the current one is full of corruption but it is also largely controlled by Israel, even their wages pass from Isreal, a government with no authority is no government.
As for the school curriculum, again I had no idea and I searched and I found that both sides are guilty: [A study titled “Israeli and Palestinian textbooks erase the other side, report finds” analyzed dozens of school books (Israeli and Palestinian) and found that a large proportion of Israeli books (75%) and Palestinian books (81%) describe the other side as “the enemy.” This suggests that portrayal of the “other” as adversarial is common]
Most of the 100K either had another nationality or left for human aid (injured people), many of gazans already left their homes in 1984 and lived as refugees in Gaza, I don’t think they want to leave a second time because leaving means no coming back, also why those people should leave their land? They should have the right to stay there.
Finally for the last comment, do you think there is a place to hide? How can you get food? Medicine? Money? I can’t imagine being put in such conditions!
Re: Ask HN: Has the Gaza war affected the HN crowd?
#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes all recent wars, but the comment was on a question related to Gaza. Still gaza war feels different, maybe because it’s almost streamed live on social media platforms by the directly impacted people? I don’t agree with the statement that corporations are machines to absorb money, behind corporations there are people and people must have morale.
> I don’t agree with the statement that corporations are machines to absorb money, behind corporations there are people and people must have morale. This is covered by the principle of the diffusion of responsibility. One person may have morals but spread over many, the entire structure does not. Those corporations that do have morals are outcompeted by those that don't, in terms of amount of money made, so over time…
Re: Ask HN: Has the Gaza war affected the HN crowd?
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For you first question I didn’t have an answer, so I did some research and based on what I read, it seems a lot of expansion, land seizure and legalisation of unauthorised outposts in addition to new expansion plans for existing settlements. For hostages it seems that neither side wants them to be released, hamas wants to keep them to bargain and Israel uses them to have a reason to continue bombing Gaza. Any Palesti…