1. Take time off, like a month or more. [1] Use it to do anything other than coding. Hone a hobby, travel, volunteer, etc. No-one will care about a month or two gap on your resume. 2. You are worth more than you currently think you are. Internalize this, know this, that is key. "I am a sole developer for Mobile and Web platforms at this startup in a very small team" --> is a desirable skill in and of itself. 3. Stop…
>Hone a hobby definitely. I would highly recommend creating something. Woodwork, metalwork, sculpting, crochet... whatever. It uses the brain in a completely different way. it creates new challenges and the satisfaction of physically manipulating the world is unequal in the digital world.
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Re: Ask HN: Burnt-out, directionless but want to turn it around
#172Earlier quoted context omitted.
OP didn’t state where they are from, but there are plenty of places where it is extremely hard to fire, even if an employee is consistently underperforming. Not saying that this is the case in this circumstance (I don’t know OP,) but the “you must be good because you lasted 4 years” heuristic doesn’t work that well outside of the US, or similar markets with at-will employment.
if they were sole dev in a startup for four years and couldn't ship software the startup probably wouldn't have lasted the last four years... Or they very quickly wouldn't be the sole full stack dev any more and relegated to some shit job
Re: Ask HN: Burnt-out, directionless but want to turn it around
#173What helped me was a renewed focus on my health, career followed after that. Good luck my friend!
Re: Ask HN: Burnt-out, directionless but want to turn it around
#174Earlier quoted context omitted.
What if this kind of cruel snotty attitude is a telltale sign of people who are as afraid they’re mediocre as they view the people they judge? What if there’s no value to anyone in this kind of response?
This is literally the logic of capitalism. Your value is simply whatever value you are able to negotiate for yourself on the job market. OP is more valuable than a toilet cleaner, or a starbucks barista, less valuable than a corporate lawyer or a CEO. People naturally "compare up" rather than "compare down". Sure OP is probably in the 1% wealthiest people in the world, or top 99.9999% of those who ever lived, but rat…
Not to kill your point, but those two are dramatically under-valued and under-appreciated jobs in most societies around the world. Every time you use a toilet (other than the one in your home) which is hopefully clean, somebody had cleaned it recently. Imagine they hadn't. You'd have a terrible day. Every time you go grab a good Starbucks coffee. Maybe even sit down in a comfy sofa to be able to enjoy it. Imagine the barista had screwed it up.
Both experiences make a huge difference in people's lives. Hundreds if not thousands a day. Every day. But they are paid crap and talked about in the way you just did. Compare that to a coder churning away meaningless features in some meaningless app. Would I care if the coder wouldn't show up to work for the next 4 weeks with nobody stepping in their place? No. That answer is decisively different for the toilet cleaner and the barista.
Re: Ask HN: Burnt-out, directionless but want to turn it around
#1751. Take time off, like a month or more. [1] Use it to do anything other than coding. Hone a hobby, travel, volunteer, etc. No-one will care about a month or two gap on your resume. 2. You are worth more than you currently think you are. Internalize this, know this, that is key. "I am a sole developer for Mobile and Web platforms at this startup in a very small team" --> is a desirable skill in and of itself. 3. Stop…
Re: Ask HN: Burnt-out, directionless but want to turn it around
#176It seems to me that you probably already have skill and knowledge, but it looks like you need more inspiration? Cutting down on your working hours won't make you dumb, but may just make you a bit happier.
Re: Ask HN: Burnt-out, directionless but want to turn it around
#1771. Take time off, like a month or more. [1] Use it to do anything other than coding. Hone a hobby, travel, volunteer, etc. No-one will care about a month or two gap on your resume. 2. You are worth more than you currently think you are. Internalize this, know this, that is key. "I am a sole developer for Mobile and Web platforms at this startup in a very small team" --> is a desirable skill in and of itself. 3. Stop…
But what if they aren't worth more (as a dev, financially) than they think they are? They could be awful, but naively put in a ton of hours. Why do we assume people are worth more? Are we trying to make them feel better by making assumptions and potentially leading them horribly astray? Most people are supremely mediocre and there are just and many horrible devs as their are great ones.
Re: Ask HN: Burnt-out, directionless but want to turn it around
#178It’s like you just described my exact situation ~14 months ago. Such a though situation to be in but I can tell you things will get better. Spoke to my GP and have been in therapy for ~10 months, no work at all. Had to find my love back for the things I really enjoyed. Was able to find a job at a new place at the beginning of this year and I’m finally feeling I’m getting my life back again. I’ll have to be very caref…
> Then I had another thought: Physics disgusts me a little bit now, but I used to enjoy doing physics. Why did I enjoy it? I used to play with it. I used to do whatever I felt like doing - it didn't have to do with whether it was important for the development of nuclear physics, but whether it was interesting and amusing for me to play with. When I was in high school, I'd see water running out of a faucet growing narrower, and wonder if I could figure out what determines that curve. I found it was rather easy to do. I didn't have to do it; it wasn't important for the future of science; somebody else had already done it. That didn't make any difference. I'd invent things and play with things for my own entertainment.
> So I got this new attitude. Now that I am burned out and I'll never accomplish anything, I've got this nice position at the university teaching classes which I rather enjoy, and just like I read the Arabian Nights for pleasure, I'm going to play with physics, whenever I want to, without worrying about any importance whatsoever.
> Within a week I was in the cafeteria and some guy, fooling around, throws a plate in the air. As the plate went up in the air I saw it wobble, and I noticed the red medallion of Cornell on the plate going around. It was pretty obvious to me that the medallion went around faster than the wobbling.
> [snip]
> It was effortless. It was easy to play with these things. It was like uncorking a bottle: Everything flowed out effortlessly. I almost tried to resist it! There was no importance to what I was doing, but ultimately there was. The diagrams and the whole business that I got the Nobel Prize for came from that piddling around with the wobbling plate.
Re: Ask HN: Burnt-out, directionless but want to turn it around
#179So why do you think you have the following:
> but unable to concentrate, riddled with brain fog
You're putting in WAY TOO MANY HOURS!
Stop doing overtime, and read this: https://www.7pace.com/blog/overtime-kills and http://blog.approache.com/2010/11/rules-of-productivity.html
On the career level: You are selling a service. You code, they pay. You are currently underselling yourself. Your boss comes to your car dealership, buys a car, and you give him 2 cars. Don't do that! Your boss pays for 40 hours, you do 40 hours. He wants more? He pays more. He thinks it's a bad deal? You go work somewhere else for someone that does want to pay for your service.
Even though you are an employee, imagine that you are a freelancer selling your service. No pay, no service. Pay for 40 hours, get 40 hours.
Re: Ask HN: Burnt-out, directionless but want to turn it around
#180Current hobbies: bonsai trees (joined a local club), going to the gym, getting back to indoor climbing... The more social and physical the better for me (I thought for a long time I was more a lonely person than social but apparently that's not completely true).