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Tell HN: Russians may soon lose access to the global internet

#1
internet censorship has been going on for a while here and most people have adopted xray and other vpn solutions in response

however, ISPs have begun rolling out white list (essentially an allow list of like a hundred websites) blocks, with mobile internet being essentially completely gone in many places, next step is white list blocks on home broadband ISPs, which has already started happening

these are extremely difficult if not impossible to bypass, with currently working solutions relying on being deployed to domestic cloud providers' whitelisted subnets

however, authorities have already been started cracking down on this, and with KYC requirements for those VPSs, these solutions are likely to soon vanish too (running a VPN service carries jail time with it)

there are some other fringe solutions, like encoding TCP traffic into a video signal, and streaming it over a call via a Russian service like VK video calls, however that relies on those websites being available abroad, and there is no telling how long this will remain a viable solution

i'm not sure what to do to be honest, just thought i'd share, if anyone has any solutions, i'd be very thankful, since i'm out of ideas, outside of going near a border and setting up a point to point wifi signal via a directed antenna (is that even viable anyways?)

thanks

Re: Tell HN: Russians may soon lose access to the global internet

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Арендуй VPS сервер в другой стране и подними на нем VPN сервер личный и тебя никто не заблокирует.

> Rent a VPS in another country and set up your own personal VPN server on it, and no one will be able to block you.

(machine translation)

How would this ever work with a whitelist? did you even read the post?

Re: Tell HN: Russians may soon lose access to the global internet

#8

Арендуй VPS сервер в другой стране и подними на нем VPN сервер личный и тебя никто не заблокирует.

read the post please, the precise problem is that this may soon not work

Re: Tell HN: Russians may soon lose access to the global internet

#9

Арендуй VPS сервер в другой стране и подними на нем VPN сервер личный и тебя никто не заблокирует.

This will not work for two reasons:

1. Thanks to the sanctions, it is virtually impossible for RF citizens to purchase anything abroad with Russian credit cards.

2. VPN was design not to obfuscate but to encrypt - that is, the protocol doesn't conceal the fact that VPN channel is being used, you just cannot peek into the content in this channel. Which means that more and more sophisticated tools are being used to block VPN communications.

Re: Tell HN: Russians may soon lose access to the global internet

#10

Since it's a website white list, maybe VLESS with SNI masking to a whitelisted website abroad would work? But you have to buy a VPS and run the xray server yourself.

perhaps, there's still hope i think:

- roskomnadzor just not being competent enough to implement the block fully

- they'll reserse the block, since it will likely completely cripple everything that relies on the internet (which is basically everything nowadays)

- they won't go through with the ban completely, since if they do, their job is sort of done, and they want to continue to exist to make money off of the digital infrastructure required to implement the block, and they'll just continue playing this game of cat and mouse

- outside internet connectivity will likely remain to some degree, it'll just be very slow and probably expensive, but i really struggle to see a country like Russia being completely cut off from the internet in the year of our lord 2026

i could be wrong, who knows, after all this whole situation is unprecedented, and human ingenuity sort of always finds a way

and in a somewhat positive note, mobile internet has come back today and the blocks are bypassable with a regular vpn now, even ones that aren't being hosted on whitelisted subnets

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