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We often treat the ocean as an environmental issue, not a systems problem. In a recent podcast conversation, I kept coming back to the idea that measurement changes governance. As ocean data improves, through sensors, autonomous platforms, and modeling, the ocean shifts from a background variable to an operational layer in global systems. Historically, once infrastructure becomes measurable, it becomes optimized and then monetized. Curious how others here see this playing out: does increased ocean observability lead to better stewardship, or simply new extraction models? Full conversation here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfy0qMckwo4