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My open source project got stolen by a HN user

#1
Hey everyone, I've got a bit of a situation and could use some insight.

So, I created this open-source project called Outstatic (https://outstatic.com), it's been my pet project for a while. But here's the twist: I just found out someone on HN (https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=hoofhearted) took my entire project, renamed it, and has been showing it off all over the internet as their own thing.

I'm not usually one to call people out, but this is just too much. The only reason I found out was because this person was asking for help with my project on our Discord server, and I got curious.

Turns out, they've been pretending to develop this 'new' project since April and have even been warned by the mods here for spamming about it. When I casually mentioned that I stumbled upon their project and that it looked cool, they went on and on about their 'original vision' and even had the nerve to ask me to join them as a co-founder!

I understand that open source means people can use and modify the work, but claiming total credit and denying any connection to the original project? That's a bit much. I did bring up the issue of giving credit and licensing, and the response was a vague promise of 'eventually' doing it.

Just wanted to get this off my chest and see what you all think. It's a weird spot to be in, for sure.

He's fooled a bunch of people into joining and contributing to “his project”. So I feel like I should at least warn them that they are making contributions to a "stolen” project.

Here's a list of posts where this person claims they built everything and intentionally mention all the tech stack but leaves “Outstatic” out of it: https://dub.sh/code-theft

Re: My open source project got stolen by a HN user

#2
A risk is that this other person will claim to be the original author and sue or otherwise attack you for copying their work. I am not a lawyer, but in your case I would contact one and make sure that I had enough documentation of my authorship to survive a legal claim.

(My experience is in the United States only; things might be different in other countries).

Re: My open source project got stolen by a HN user

#4
The first thing that came to my mind after reading your post was the philmarilion from 4chan. Collecting these posts and submitting them with all these commentaries is.. a bit creepy. I find collecting stuff to be a good idea, but publishing them in this manner is another thing, seems to be a very knee-jerk reaction.

When I compare the two projects, I do see that you are right, he obviously just copy-pasted, I do understand your outrage. Why are you trying to shame him here, where your post will be compost in a matter of hours, instead of opening an issue or two (phrased more diplomatically) in his github project, and post the link here?

Re: My open source project got stolen by a HN user

#5

The first thing that came to my mind after reading your post was the philmarilion from 4chan. Collecting these posts and submitting them with all these commentaries is.. a bit creepy. I find collecting stuff to be a good idea, but publishing them in this manner is another thing, seems to be a very knee-jerk reaction. When I compare the two projects, I do see that you are right, he obviously just copy-pasted, I do und…

Thanks for the suggestion. I haven't experienced this before so I'm not even sure how to react. I'm just astonished that people like this exist, taking work that you know isn't yours and pitching investors and other devs as your own?

I'm sorry, I think this guy needs to be put on blast. I tried doing this in a more diplomatic way through our Discord dms, but in no moment was any expression of regret or wrong doing brought up.

Re: My open source project got stolen by a HN user

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post #3

Well, your license gave them permission to pretty much do anything. As nefarious as it may be, it is not illegal. https://github.com/avitorio/outstatic/blob/canary/license.md

Yes, MIT License allows for modification, not going around claiming you wrote all the code.

Re: My open source project got stolen by a HN user

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post #3

Well, your license gave them permission to pretty much do anything. As nefarious as it may be, it is not illegal. https://github.com/avitorio/outstatic/blob/canary/license.md

It's not really about the law either, it's just a total dick move. They could've approached the OP about being co maintainers, or simply say that it's a forked version with improvements, or whatever. No need to steal credit and impersonate the OP.

Re: My open source project got stolen by a HN user

#8

A risk is that this other person will claim to be the original author and sue or otherwise attack you for copying their work. I am not a lawyer, but in your case I would contact one and make sure that I had enough documentation of my authorship to survive a legal claim. (My experience is in the United States only; things might be different in other countries).

Won't the github timestamps show which came first?

Re: My open source project got stolen by a HN user

#9
It is definitely unfair at say the least. I do see that their About text in Github has outstatic but that is it. If the code was directly copied pasted (regardless of MIT license), he should at least mention your project as a courtesy. This is why we can't have nice things. I don't know how to help you more but I do feel your pain and I wish there weren't people like this in the world. But they do exist.

Re: My open source project got stolen by a HN user

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post #8

A risk is that this other person will claim to be the original author and sue or otherwise attack you for copying their work. I am not a lawyer, but in your case I would contact one and make sure that I had enough documentation of my authorship to survive a legal claim. (My experience is in the United States only; things might be different in other countries).

Won't the github timestamps show which came first?

Something curious is that the oldest tag I can find on Github from Elegant is from March 16 [1], while the oldest tag I can find from Outstatic is from March 26 [2]

[1] https://github.com/elegantframework/elegant-cli/tree/v1.0-al...

[2] https://github.com/avitorio/outstatic/tags?after=v0.0.37

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