Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

People running Windows 11, are you all running Sluggish Incarnate?

news.ycombinator.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

1–10 of 27 posts

People running Windows 11, are you all running Sluggish Incarnate?

#1

Post by davidgrenier »

I ask because every family member's system I sat next to has been, by my standards, unusably slow. At least 3 minutes boot time, then 1 minute spinning and another for icons to show up. Then opening up the settings menu and everything freezes for 30 seconds.

I understand they have no clue about tidying things up, but this Debian machine hasn't been reinstalled in at least 4 years and I'm pretty sure I still don't have a clue about Linux, yet it still runs smoother than butter.

I'd like to help them but haven't touched a windows machine since Windows 8 showed its ugly face. I could handle myself with Windows 7/2003 but I'm pretty sure I lost it. Is there a commonly agreed best-guide?

Re: People running Windows 11, are you all running Sluggish Incarnate?

#3

Post by pawelduda »

Reading this I get flashbacks from HDD era, perhaps this is already a case but:

Put a SSD in it. Then clone the system from old to new drive. Even the cheapest ones make huge difference but if it's old machine, don't go too crazy because bandwidth could be limited by SATA2

Re: People running Windows 11, are you all running Sluggish Incarnate?

#4

Post by davidgrenier »

pawelduda wrote: post #3

Reading this I get flashbacks from HDD era, perhaps this is already a case but: Put a SSD in it. Then clone the system from old to new drive. Even the cheapest ones make huge difference but if it's old machine, don't go too crazy because bandwidth could be limited by SATA2

Will double check both systems I have access to, thanks.

Re: People running Windows 11, are you all running Sluggish Incarnate?

#6

Post by romanhn »

It definitely feels slower than previous versions. The fact that the Start menu almost always takes multiple seconds to open is absolutely inexcusable. To be fair, it's likely attributable to running a bunch of heavy apps (Visual Studio, Docker Desktop, multiple Chrome windows) on 8GB of RAM, but the task manager doesn't typically show memory as full, or any other obvious diagnostic. The primary hard drive is an SSD.

I've been on Microsoft operating systems since Windows 3.1 and MS-DOS. Next year I am buying a Macbook M3 when that comes out. Time to move on.

Re: People running Windows 11, are you all running Sluggish Incarnate?

#7

Post by hardware2win »

romanhn wrote: post #6

It definitely feels slower than previous versions. The fact that the Start menu almost always takes multiple seconds to open is absolutely inexcusable. To be fair, it's likely attributable to running a bunch of heavy apps (Visual Studio, Docker Desktop, multiple Chrome windows) on 8GB of RAM, but the task manager doesn't typically show memory as full, or any other obvious diagnostic. The primary hard drive is an SSD.…

Start menu is really slow

Re: People running Windows 11, are you all running Sluggish Incarnate?

#8

Post by 5350-uiop-1130 »

romanhn wrote: post #6

It definitely feels slower than previous versions. The fact that the Start menu almost always takes multiple seconds to open is absolutely inexcusable. To be fair, it's likely attributable to running a bunch of heavy apps (Visual Studio, Docker Desktop, multiple Chrome windows) on 8GB of RAM, but the task manager doesn't typically show memory as full, or any other obvious diagnostic. The primary hard drive is an SSD.…

i use an m1 max with 32gb ram at work and it's often slow as hell.

apps refuse to open without reboot. often resets or disables system settings randomly.

with shit like docker or microsoft "cloud services as a js app" running, no chip is going to help.

running win10 at home for 8 years best experience in over 20 years of all OSes in stability.

Re: People running Windows 11, are you all running Sluggish Incarnate?

#9

Post by justsomehnguy »

> At least 3 minutes boot time, then 1 minute spinning and another for icons to show up

This is not a sw issue, but a hardware one. As other commenter note - you didn't even check if the system on SSD.

> but this Debian machine hasn't been reinstalled in at least 4 years and I'm pretty sure I still don't have a clue about Linux, yet it still runs smoother than butter.

And I can show you X301 what run fine enough with Win10 yet it is slow as molasses on CentOS8. What gives? And yes, it has both on SSD, not HDD.

Re: People running Windows 11, are you all running Sluggish Incarnate?

#10

Post by runjake »

8700K with NVMe SSD and 32 GB RAM. My Windows 11 machine boots in seconds and is quite speedy. The only exception being the absolutely sluggish Start Menu.

I do uninstall anything that doesn't need to be installed and I also police startup items with the SysInternals tools[1].

If those systems are using a spinning HDD, you're doomed. W11 is designed for SSD systems. I doubt MSFT cares about HDD installs.

And with PCs and Windows, you're always running into oddball hardware and driver issues unless you take great care in picking components with good track records (as I did).

1. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/

Post reply on HN