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Tell HN: Somebody implemented something I wrote a blog about

#1
So a while ago I wrote about how 2FA was missing a key feature: https://syslog.ravelin.com/2fa-is-missing-a-key-feature-c781...

Having not had any feedback on it in a while and the idea not taking off, today somebody messaged me to say that had implemented it in their product.

1. Obviously I think this is great and more secure

2. Tell people about things you do that they played a part it- it might just make their day.

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#6
Yes! That’s such a nice feeling.

One of my GitHub projects was used in a demo at Google Cloud next a while ago. the presenter was considerate enough to attribute the project to me by name during the demo and even sent me an issue just letting me know about it. That was so nice! Absolutely people should do this.

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#7
I would consider that as a bug, not as a feature. If the login panel behaves differently on a correct password than on a wrong password, that's an information leak that must be fixed.

Authentication must be evaluated and rejected only when all factors are already provided, and the rejection error should not disclose which of the factors failed.

So, with a proper login panel, my 2FA being asked does not mean that someone has my password.

Edit: this is, for example, the recommendation from PCI to separate "Multi-Step Authentication" from true "Multi-Factor Authentication": https://www.pcisecuritystandards.org/pdfs/Multi-Factor-Authe...

Re: Tell HN: Somebody implemented something I wrote a blog about

#8
post #7

I would consider that as a bug, not as a feature. If the login panel behaves differently on a correct password than on a wrong password, that's an information leak that must be fixed. Authentication must be evaluated and rejected only when all factors are already provided, and the rejection error should not disclose which of the factors failed. So, with a proper login panel, my 2FA being asked does not mean that some…

You make a good point, but does anyone do that? I’ve been using a PW manager so long, I don’t really enter incorrect passwords.

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post #7

I would consider that as a bug, not as a feature. If the login panel behaves differently on a correct password than on a wrong password, that's an information leak that must be fixed. Authentication must be evaluated and rejected only when all factors are already provided, and the rejection error should not disclose which of the factors failed. So, with a proper login panel, my 2FA being asked does not mean that some…

I don't know of anyone who does 2FA this way.
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