I live in South Africa and we have a really frustrating situation here. We have a population of about 60milloon people and around 4 million of those 60million pay taxes that are used to pay out grants to sustain the rest of the population and to fund the bad spending of our corrupt government. They are about to increase taxes here. What could I possibly do to fight back? Ive thought of leavinf the country but there must be something to do to wake up the government to the fact that of thr economy keeps worsening then there will be no tax payers.
What can we do to fight corrupt governments?
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Re: What can we do to fight corrupt governments?
#2You live in a power structure based on a hierarchy of control down to almost, but not quite, the individual level.
All monies are stolen high up in this hierarchy and filter down as bribes to the lower levels. China is perfecting this to attain the individual level.
The control mechanism in these power structures is:- Fear, pure and simple. If you attract the attention of the structure they will deal with you in one way or another, ranging from cash at one extreme and a knife or bullet at the other.
Why do people tolrate this? In the USA they would not, but Africans are drawn to these people in power, it is a tribal thing and as you can see with all the African dictatorships, pervasive. Even those that resemble democracies are actually power based dictatorships.
To change it? Until the basic African mind set changes you can not. Any attempt will attract the attention of the system to you = death or $$ - you choose...
Re: What can we do to fight corrupt governments?
#3Globalists want a plantation planet. This is why they fear guns and free speech. Arm up and speak up.
Re: What can we do to fight corrupt governments?
#4The common answer is transparency. Perhaps advocate for online tools that expose government spending, funds disbursement, budgets, tax allocation, and so forth.
Corruption is allowed to exist because it is permitted within the confines of a given culture by the rules of practice within that culture. You will want to access objective research that provides data on your local culture so as to better present a resolution that best addresses the cultural practices that would most inhibit transparency. For a specific geography you will want to reference the Geert Hofstede dimensions and the Transparency International research for your area.
* https://www.transparency.org/
* https://geerthofstede.com/culture-geert-hofstede-gert-jan-ho...
Re: What can we do to fight corrupt governments?
#5The common answer is transparency . Perhaps advocate for online tools that expose government spending, funds disbursement, budgets, tax allocation, and so forth. Corruption is allowed to exist because it is permitted within the confines of a given culture by the rules of practice within that culture. You will want to access objective research that provides data on your local culture so as to better present a resoluti…
Thanks wow what an answer :)
Re: What can we do to fight corrupt governments?
#6You live in a power structure based on a hierarchy of control down to almost, but not quite, the individual level. All monies are stolen high up in this hierarchy and filter down as bribes to the lower levels. China is perfecting this to attain the individual level. The control mechanism in these power structures is:- Fear, pure and simple. If you attract the attention of the structure they will deal with you in one…
This also a really good answer. Thanks
Re: What can we do to fight corrupt governments?
#7The common answer is transparency . Perhaps advocate for online tools that expose government spending, funds disbursement, budgets, tax allocation, and so forth. Corruption is allowed to exist because it is permitted within the confines of a given culture by the rules of practice within that culture. You will want to access objective research that provides data on your local culture so as to better present a resoluti…
Anything and everything done with taxpayer money should be open and transparent by default, should be available to the public in real time, not six months or 5 years later.
Transparency is the start, but that alone wouldn't be enough? Look at the shenanigans of the current govt - they are openly breaking laws and just don't care. It is well documented, everyone knows about it, still nothing happens
Re: What can we do to fight corrupt governments?
#8The common answer is transparency . Perhaps advocate for online tools that expose government spending, funds disbursement, budgets, tax allocation, and so forth. Corruption is allowed to exist because it is permitted within the confines of a given culture by the rules of practice within that culture. You will want to access objective research that provides data on your local culture so as to better present a resoluti…
Anything and everything done with taxpayer money should be open and transparent by default , should be available to the public in real time , not six months or 5 years later. Transparency is the start, but that alone wouldn't be enough? Look at the shenanigans of the current govt - they are openly breaking laws and just don't care. It is well documented, everyone knows about it, still nothing happens
Unlimited and immediate transparency are generally not a good idea. Before government data is released to the public you have to ensure there is accountability to applicable regulations and sensitivity to any personally identifiable information.
The goal is to hold governments accountable without violating the privacy of impacted individuals or any other internally sensitive information.
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#9If you replace "South Africa" with other contry - this likely will apply too.
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#10>around 4 million of those 60million pay taxes that are used to pay out grants to sustain the rest of the population
(I know nothing about the situation there but)
I presume this means that wealthy/rich peoples' money is used to help the non-rich. And this is somehow a desperate problem? It sounds like you're one of the 4 million. What does "fighting back" mean, what's the goal? For the rich to keep it all for themselves, and keep getting richer? I thought the rich pay lower taxes everywhere - they can also pay expensive lawyers and accountants to make it happen.
When you say bad spending, what's bad about it?