COI – Chat Over IMAP
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COI – Chat Over IMAP
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Re: COI – Chat Over IMAP
#2Are Google, Apple, Microsoft, and other large email providers likely to implement a protocol like this into their own servers? It seems like a major conflict of interest, and without them it is a massive portion of the market that will never see this service work.
Re: COI – Chat Over IMAP
#3Are Google, Apple, Microsoft, and other large email providers likely to implement a protocol like this into their own servers? It seems like a major conflict of interest, and without them it is a massive portion of the market that will never see this service work.
Are server-side changes needed?
Re: COI – Chat Over IMAP
#4Are Google, Apple, Microsoft, and other large email providers likely to implement a protocol like this into their own servers? It seems like a major conflict of interest, and without them it is a massive portion of the market that will never see this service work.
> likely to implement a protocol like this into their own servers?
just on the homepage "Since this is all based on email, you can communicate with users even when they do not have COI-compatible servers or apps."
the likely side effect is that you'd need to filter out chats messages into a folder or something to reduce the inbox clutter
Re: COI – Chat Over IMAP
#5Are Google, Apple, Microsoft, and other large email providers likely to implement a protocol like this into their own servers? It seems like a major conflict of interest, and without them it is a massive portion of the market that will never see this service work.
If I interpret the homepage correctly clients/servers without extra COI enhancements will just receive the messages as emails. Not ideal, but in any client with threading (gmail, apple), it would work decently i guess.
Re: COI – Chat Over IMAP
#6Are Google, Apple, Microsoft, and other large email providers likely to implement a protocol like this into their own servers? It seems like a major conflict of interest, and without them it is a massive portion of the market that will never see this service work.
Are server-side changes needed?
> The COI ecosystem is the COI Standard plus compatible Client Apps and Email Servers.
> COI works with all email severs, but IMAP servers can be enhanced with extra COI capability.
I’d take this to mean that no, changes are not explicitly required; but without the changes COI functions the same as email, but in an IM interface.
Re: COI – Chat Over IMAP
#7What of network effect? And in today's fragmented, firewalled and NATed internet, what of ! --dport 80,443 -j DROP?
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#8It is very difficult to build a decent email client with IMAP. So initially thought it is a no-sense. But after reading the while proposition seem very intriguing. Although it is based on email adoption will be very difficult.
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#9Very bad choice of design for the website. I'm supposed to be interested in this, but this website looks like they're trying to sell me some multi-million contract.
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#10"Last but not least, every COI client app can offer a variety of end to end encryption options to keep your communication absolutely private."
The fact I had to read quite so far down the page to find this snippet emphasises to me how unimportant the developers of this protocol see E2E encryption to be :( And leaving it to the client seems like a terrible idea, especially if there are options, as then surely it will depend on what E2E encryption options your and your recipient's clients supports?