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Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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Wow, first time I heard of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbicidal_warfare / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ranch_Hand Strangely, there's a dearth of links between that and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiz_Kids_(Department_of_Defen... / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_McNamara

You never heard of Agent Orange?

Can't say for sure I haven't heard the term before (can't claim I'm too young to know, more like old enough to start forgetting), but I did not know they had as a goal to remove whole forests, causing countless deaths by herbicide. The details are always more horrifying than I imagined.

Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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I realized I’m treading in extremely hostile waters here, but the stories I hear from folks working in DOGE are closer to “I spend 8am to 2am with the leaders of department X going through all contracts and outflows and identifying what is important versus wasteful given a target of saving $X million per day, and there are some great people in this department who really know what’s been going on and it’s been great t…

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Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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I personally think it says volumes about how those in the Trump-Musk group (Musk group?) see this. They see the task as infiltrating an adversary, requiring someone with the technical skills to do so but who is also disposable. This in their mind is not about improving anything in the government for citizens, or with regard to US interests, it's about gaining access to a hostile entity without regard to their interes…

> I personally think it says volumes about how those in the Trump-Musk group (Musk group?) see this. They see the task as infiltrating an adversary.. This is what actual schizophrenia looks like.

Seriously yes. Having lived with someone who is schizoaffective, I recognize what is happening to America as an acute manic episode with psychosis and hallucinations.

Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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Is it the same Edward Big Baller that tweeted that Elon stole the election and is setting up more computers within the government to be hacked? https://bsky.app/profile/cartwright776.bsky.social/post/3lhr...

No, this is clearly not the same guy. This is just someone who took Coristine's previous handle [0]. That post was made 1 day after the WIRED article revealing his handle. Lots of conspiracies around election stealing going round (and sadly, quite prevalent in some corners of Bluesky), don't fall for it! [0]: https://www.wired.com/story/edward-coristine-tesla-sexy-path... - "He also *previously* used an account on X…

I ended up digging a bit more as to /why/ this is a false claim: https://internettalk.xyz/blog/edward-coristine-election-frau...

Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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I was fascinated by electricity, chemistry, firecrackers, rockets and hotrods as a boy. It is a miracle I survived. My dad told me that God looks out for little boys, as otherwise they would not make it to adulthood.

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42997093.

Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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> that intelligence agencies like to recruit young people active in the cyber criminal scene Just linking this back to the story, am I mistaken in saying that DOGE is not an intelligence agency? (It certainly is a great position to exfiltrate information however.)

It's not even an agency.

Um it is. And it was started by Obama. He

Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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It has been a fairly common story, and part rumor, that intelligence agencies like to recruit young people active in the cyber criminal scene, and that the IT security industry also adapted this approach. They basically becomes part informer and part subject expert, especially since IT security expertise seems to be a difficult subject matter to teach in universities. When I studied IT security in university, about 1…

I agree with you. When I was younger, I played a lot of Minecraft PVP servers, and for whatever reason these PVP servers cultivated a weird and toxic community of cyber criminals about them. For reference/star value, the recent headline of the kids stealing 200m in crypto via social engineering— I played with those very same people when I was younger. As in, the people who were sent to jail.

Their story repeats itself a dozen times over from my now-fragmented friend group from that time. Many young kids getting into ill-fated get rich quick schemes ranging from credit card fraud to refunding (mail fraud) all the way to sim swapping, blackmail, doxxing, and even real life violence and gang activity. A few of my earliest friends were just indicted for home invasions and armed robbery in some scheme to steal crypto. All of them from Minecraft, weirdly enough.

Anyways, those who didn’t end up in jail or “on the run” from participating in these stupid schemes, I tend to notice a common trend towards security related work. I know one guy who went from fraternizing with the same now-criminally-indicted people I hung around to working for the FBI’s cyber crimes unit (fitting, I guess). Another one now works with a defense contractor developing spyware, as far as I can tell. Many more work in different areas of cyber security and programming et al, including myself.

The cyber-crime adjacent to cyber security pipeline is very much so real.

Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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It has been a fairly common story, and part rumor, that intelligence agencies like to recruit young people active in the cyber criminal scene, and that the IT security industry also adapted this approach. They basically becomes part informer and part subject expert, especially since IT security expertise seems to be a difficult subject matter to teach in universities. When I studied IT security in university, about 1…

People get clearances even if they've used hardcore drugs such as cocaine and various more serious crimes than computer crimes. The adjudication guides for clearances explain this in more detail. I have a friend who exploited RCE full-chain exploits on productions servers and used to DDoS. He got a TS/SCI clearance no problem and didn't even finish college. I interviewed too and admitted to that stuff. They cared mor…

The difficult thing, at 19, is that a person has had zero time to at all demonstrate that they have put drugs and/or other criminal activities behind them.

Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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I spent all day responding to the replies here, and then detaching them in order to save space at the top of the thread. But I just had a better idea. This is a stub comment so we have a single root to collapse the replies. This way (1) replies can stay close to their parent (the top comment) without flooding the screen with offtopicness; and (2) we can all re-experience the timeless truth of https://en.wikipedia.org…

My issue with this content on HN isn't that the conversation is sometimes garbage, which it is, but that it's overwhelmingly people repeating the same falsehoods that might, at best, have a kernel of truth, but have been blown out of proportion to the point of just being not-true. There is very little interest in actually taking a step backwards, challenging beliefs and the propaganda fed to us by corporate news chan…

>> it's overwhelmingly people repeating the same falsehoods that might, at best, have a kernel of truth, but have been blown out of proportion to the point of just being not-true.

That describes basically all posts about AI, so let's all join in and start flagging any HN post about AI.

Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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Why is this concerning? Note, it seems to me like their reference to "ubermensch" is to the Nietzschean definition [0] and not the Nazi remix. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Übermensch

These kids seem to have been indoctrinated into a cult of Curtis Yarvin. They love talking about Nietzschean and Yarvinist ideas like this one and cathedrals. This same creep had a quote on his Twitter bio that reads "there are cathedrals everywhere for those with eyes to see". If you don't get the reference, do some research on Yarvin. I think these people legitimately have dangerous intents.

I really hate reading Yarvin, who I feel is an extremist niche weirdo, but fellow geeks keep referring me to him. Got a tldr? What's wrong with seeing cathedrals everywhere?
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