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Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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Post by nemo44x »

amazingamazing wrote: post #61

The biggest irony to me is that Musk wanted to reneg on the Twitter sale. It's interesting to consider the timeline where he was allowed to not buy it. Truly a "canon" event, that one. I'm also not convinced this is a "security breach." They're being allowed to do it. It's more like an unforced error, if anything. Not that it changes anything material about the situation. That said - a small majority of congress is c…

He never planned on reneging. It’s a negotiation tactic. It didn’t work but it was worth trying. Turns out it was a bargain all along.

Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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Post by ks2048 »

mbrumlow wrote: post #92
wobblyasp wrote: post #20

Say what you will about the cuts, you can't have people with zero clearance being given access to all of this data.

All this data? We really don’t know what data is being accessed. We have a lot of people saying lots of things about the access. Such as he will block payments or tarter people based on how they vote. You have not claimed those so I won’t rebuttal then here. But “all this data” I will. The systems bending accessed are the ones which handle money approved by congress to be spent in a specific way. As a tax payer I am…

> We really don’t know what data is being accessed.

> As a tax payer I am appalled that this data is not already public and broadcasted live.

How are you mad it's not public if you don't know what it is? Sure there is data in computers of the Treasury department that should not be public - individuals' social security numbers, personal financial information, etc.

Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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Post by ModernMech »

retskrad wrote: post #75

When Elon stripped the Twitter organisation down to its fundamental parts, saved tons of money and the service is still ran like usual, people said the he’s a moron and the service couldn’t possibly run without a bloated and inefficient workforce. They were wrong. Now that Elon is applying the same philosophy to all of his companies and now the federal government, people are once again saying he doesn’t know what he’…

For Elon and all the neo Nazis who were banned from Twitter, Elon's takeover of the platform worked out great. For others, like trans people who were just living their online lives in a community they formed over years, Elon unleashed a barrage of hate and toxicity that forced them off the platform entirely.

The same will be true in our country. What Elon's doing now will work out great for him and neo Nazis, not so great for people that Elon and neo Nazis hates.

Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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Post by jdross »

I realized I’m treading in extremely hostile waters here, but the stories I hear from folks working in DOGE are closer to “I spend 8am to 2am with the leaders of department X going through all contracts and outflows and identifying what is important versus wasteful given a target of saving $X million per day, and there are some great people in this department who really know what’s been going on and it’s been great to make a difference”

Versus whatever the media is reporting

Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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Post by Aurornis »

the_snooze wrote: post #54
fabian2k wrote: post #47

Ignoring the horrifying political parts, I think one aspect here about data access that is inherently worrying is that it seems like all usual controls were bypassed and the DOGE people had very low level access to systems. So there are probably copies of sensitive data now in their possession, and nobody knows exactly what was copied and where it is stored. This kind of access would be dangerous even in the hands of…

At the very least, it’s a field day for foreign intelligence in DC. Offering these guys some money, women, status, or drink would pay massive dividends.

This person was fired from a trivial teenage script kid job after two months because he couldn’t resist sharing their internal information.

Only a few years later, he was thrust into the core information systems of the United States right next to people with security clearance.

Targets like this are a dream come true for foreign adversaries looking for someone to corrupt.

Who knows how much compromising content his old peers already have on him. The chat logs revealed they’re already thinking about how much access he has to valuable secrets.

Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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Post by grandempire »

lazyasciiart wrote: post #175
grandempire wrote: post #164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(EDIT: Moved to comment I intended to reply to)

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Yes. I don't know many accountants who are familiar with polynomials let alone what a DAG is, etc. I am sure there are graph concepts they use by other names.

> Light SQL skills tend to be the upper end of technical accounting

This would be the main point that would need correction if I am wrong.

Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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Post by Aurornis »

grandempire wrote: post #164
fabian2k wrote: post #47

Ignoring the horrifying political parts, I think one aspect here about data access that is inherently worrying is that it seems like all usual controls were bypassed and the DOGE people had very low level access to systems. So there are probably copies of sensitive data now in their possession, and nobody knows exactly what was copied and where it is stored. This kind of access would be dangerous even in the hands of…

(EDIT: Moved to comment I intended to reply to)

> So to me this argument sounds the same as "how can young kids think they can program like experienced engineers".

This is about a specific person who has a history of bad behavior, not a generic discussion on the abilities of young people.

Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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Post by martinsnow »

cjbgkagh wrote: post #140

I don't like Musk and have not for many years, but the left has been venerating some very flawed people for a very long time. It’s hard to be outraged now when we’ve been selectively told to ignore the past of others. Let’s not forget that Trump is the pied piper candidate promoted by the left to make it easier to win elections. I remember when Ron Desantis was successfully undermined by the news media casting him as…

I don't understand what your comment means in context of doge? I'm not american so something may be lost on me.

Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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Post by ks2048 »

ein0p wrote: post #148

I'd much rather Krebs actually looked into the theft of taxpayer funds by USAID, with all its "shrimp treadmills", "Iraqi Sesame Street", "transgender mice" and regime changes. I want to get to the leaves of that tree and see who really got my money. Everything else is immaterial and should be ignored as targeted attacks on their mission.

I'd rather my tax dollars go to Iraqi Seasame Streeet than to Musk's private companies.
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