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YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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Post by eyelidlessness »

larrik wrote: post #105
jchw wrote: post #4

Note that RIAA is making this takedown because the software CAN be used to download copyrighted music and videos, and it uses examples in the ~~README~~(unit tests, see correction[1]) as an example of that: > We also note that the source code prominently includes as sample uses of the source code the downloading of copies of our members’ copyrighted sound recordings and music videos, as noted in Exhibit A hereto. For…

The fact that copyrighted works were included in the readme shows it was intended for that use, and the RIAA complaint will likely stand up to any legal scrutiny. Just because it can be used for legit purposes too won't matter in the slightest. I mean, Napster could have been used for legal means as well, and it got destroyed in court. The only chance tools like this have legally is when infringement is an "unintende…

Just an anecdata point but I was one of the people who used Napster for legitimate purposes (I used it to distribute music I created, gaining small recognition that wasn’t something I could’ve achieved otherwise with my music and my means and other technologies available). The thing that was disappointing in the fallout was that it caused many years of evasion tactics that made finding a comparable distribution multiplier very difficult. For my own use, I stopped caring about making music for others and trying to find a way to get an audience, and I happily play and write music now for my own joy and amusement, but I hate to think how many artists really struggled to find an audience the same way and came up short

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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Post by hackerman123469 »

tux1968 wrote: post #441
zxcvbn4038 wrote: post #401

This should be about impossible to enforce? Every developer and everyone who has ever cloned the repo has the complete source tree with commits. I can think of a list of countries where United States laws are not a concern, I imagine that shortly this will be one of the most distributed repositories ever. It also shows again that while free services like Github are convenient, and truthfully their interface is the on…

It's not access to the current program that is at stake, it's the ongoing public updates to handle changes made by the Youtube site.

That would be true IF youtube-dl was all about downloading YouTube videos only, but it's not. It's used by people to download videos from like a thousand other websites too.

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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Post by 542354234235 »

roywiggins wrote: post #524
kzrdude wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Should it stand up to legal scrutiny though? What does it matter if I play the beatles on youtube by watching in a web browser or watching an .mp4 file that I just downloaded? It's functionally the same.

The intent matters. Browsers don't make it easy to get ahold of a copy of the file that you can share, youtube-dl does. Add that to a bad README and that's something that a court might treat very differently from a web browser. This is not far off from how it's legal to carry lockpicks but it's often not legal to carry lockpicks around with the intention of using them to commit a crime. Either way you're carrying the…

> This is not far off from how it's legal to carry lockpicks but it's often not legal to carry lockpicks around with the intention of using them to commit a crime.

This is pretty far from lock picking tools. The crime commits with lock picking tools involves physically breaking into someone private property to either steal physical items or do physical harm to people. Breaking and entering and copyright law are not comparable. A closer analogy is smuggling a camera into a concert to break copyright law by recording a concert. Canon or Nikon are not responsible for what I did, just because they made the technology that allows users to record any content, which may or may not include copyrighted material. Even if Canon included how well their camera performed at recording concerts, that doesn’t suddenly make them responsible. Youtube-dl is much closer to a digital version of a camera than to lock picking tools.

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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Post by zeusflight »

zxcvbn4038 wrote: post #764
zeusflight wrote: post #755

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with your concept. The main problem though, is that each of those code hosting web app is a silo of its own. Any new contributor will have to create a new account for each of the self-hosted projects. Youtube-dl is one of those projects that can't survive in such an environment. Sourcehut is free from such requirements - but many complain about difficulty of email-based workflow. Another option is the upcomin…

There is also https://github.com/cjb/GitTorrent but I have not used it myself.

Late reply, but replying since you mentioned gittorrent. The project's author recommended [1] the Radicle project (https://radicle.xyz) instead of gittorrent.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24876815

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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Post by aeyes »

glenneroo wrote: post #969
aeyes wrote: post #450

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To restore your ability to partake in culture, you can use JDownloader. It is universal and can download from almost any media site.

jdownloader.org or .com? The former throws a FILE_NOT_FOUND exception for the Windows version and can't access the SVN, the latter looks a bit sketchy and has no code available, not that it's a prerequisite, just figured HNers would offer up the open-source version first ;)

jdownloader.org

It's open source but they use SVN so you need an SVN client to actually see the code because they have no browsable repo tool.

You can find some mirrors of the code on GitHub, for example: https://github.com/mirror/jdownloader

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