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Apple raises prices of MacBooks, iPads

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Re: Apple raises prices of MacBooks, iPads

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Post by martinjc »

simondotau wrote: post #702
martinjc wrote: post #602

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Fully agree with you. I am a frontend developer. On my work machine spotify uses maybe 300mb of memory, but on my home pc with opensuse? Image what it uses... 1.1GB.. The same as my brave browser with 4 tabs open. What is going on.

Because so much modern software is a web browser. The application bundles in its own version of Chromium. Built natively, the same app could use an order of magnitude less memory, while being functionally identical.

That doesn't explain the discrepancy

Re: Apple raises prices of MacBooks, iPads

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Post by pseudalopex »

rchaud wrote: post #348
groundzeros2015 wrote: post #114

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I went looking for a comparable PC product a few months ago and nothing is even close in price for the same feature set.

You're proving my point. It's no longer at the same price.

A plausible interpretation of their comment was they found nothing close to the new price.

Re: Apple raises prices of MacBooks, iPads

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Post by bombcar »

labcomputer wrote: post #835
bombcar wrote: post #591

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Go look at the upgrade prices - the 128 GB RAM jump on the MBP is now $2k!

And you can't even upgrade the Studio past 96GB now.

You can get one on eBay for $car!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/198437319168

Re: Apple raises prices of MacBooks, iPads

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Post by audunw »

alt227 wrote: post #856
primaprashant wrote: post #465

These are the price changes mentioned in the article: Macs MacBook Neo: $699 (up from $599) 13-inch MacBook Air: $1,299 (up from $1,099) 15-inch MacBook Air: $1,499 (up from $1,299) M5 MacBook Pro: $1,999 (up from $1,699) M5 Pro MacBook Pro: $2,499 (up from $2,199) M5 Max MacBook Pro: $4,099 (up from $3,599) iMac: $1,499 (up from $1,299) M4 Max Mac Studio: $2,499 (up from $1,999) M3 Ultra Mac Studio: $5,299 (up from…

I think Apple could easily swallow these price hikes in its profit margin if it wanted to, but then its shareholders wouldnt have as pretty numbers to look at in their quarterly reports.

The scale of Apple is such that I suspect they also set prices based on what would lead to shortages. If they had significantly lower prices, to avoid annoying customers by not having things in stock, they’d basically have to fund the construction of new factories. They do do that kind of stuff, but it’s not trivial.

Re: Apple raises prices of MacBooks, iPads

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Post by ololobus »

HDBaseT wrote: post #718
tavavex wrote: post #173

Anyone else here enjoy living in the future? Look at us, we get AI megacorporations ruling the world and bestowing us with the power to use their servers for just $20-200/month. It's practically charity, and all we had to give up for it is all consumer hardware, the quality of the internet and our own jobs. I love it here!

I know this is a bit off topic, but is anyone excited for the future? I'm only 20, but everyone used to talk about how excited they were for the future. I don't know anyone who is excited for the future. It upsets me I never got to live the "glory days" of cars, technology, outdoor activities, music, entertainment, etc. I only see it getting significantly worse too. It's hard not to fall into the trap of doomerism bu…

> It upsets me I never got to live the "glory days" of cars, technology, outdoor activities, music, entertainment, etc.

I’m getting closer to 40, but I sometimes feel the same. Like people were buying houses for a fair amount of money in 90s-00s, when I was going to school. And now it’s like you need a fortune to do the same

But generally, I think it’s more about human psychology. For many people, the past may feel more attractive. It’s a mix of nostalgia, current day-to-day problems, and the fact that you cannot really get there to check if it really was that great :)

Human history has known much worse times than now, and I think we all need to remember that we shape the present and the future in one way or another. Yes, you and I have way smaller levers than D. Trump or Elon Musk or some average CEO, but we do still have. Every day we make decisions that influence our life and the lives of people around.

Don’t want to sound like that social media influencer, it’s just how I explain it to myself too

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Post by qtk8 »

alt227 wrote: post #931
qtk8 wrote: post #875

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Why would Apple do that?

They could gain a shedload of market share by remaining cheap while pricing in the whole rest of the industry rockets up? Especially after just releasing the Neo, their cheapest laptop ever. They could be taking chunks out of the PC market right now if they werent so greedy.

I'm sure a lot of smart people have weighed all the options and decided that this one was the best.

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Post by ololobus »

zythyx wrote: post #758
HDBaseT wrote: post #718

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I know this is a bit off topic, but is anyone excited for the future? I'm only 20, but everyone used to talk about how excited they were for the future. I don't know anyone who is excited for the future. It upsets me I never got to live the "glory days" of cars, technology, outdoor activities, music, entertainment, etc. I only see it getting significantly worse too. It's hard not to fall into the trap of doomerism bu…

I was excited about the future... I've always been a tech nerd, from my first Gameboy in 1998 when I was 10, to my first PC, then getting all sorts of gadgets and upgrades. Always an early adopter to many things, even social media and AI. I was basically a day 1 adopter of Facebook when it became available worldwide. I was there before Gangnam Style hit the 313 YouTube views limit (I was the 214th watcher) Tesla was…

> Games are no longer about having fun, they're about how much money or activity can I extract from the player (yes, even the indie experience is tainted: buy off Steam and 30% of that purchase goes to the platform for just existing).

This is a HUGE overstatement, tbh. Without such big worldwide distributors like Steam, the only option an average indie dev would have is to distribute their game on their website that nobody knows about, so instead of hundreds of 1000s of sold copies they would have just some 1000s

Another non-obvious outcome of Steam is that the pirate scene largely just went away. It so niche that nobody really cares about it for real. It’s just so much easier and safer to buy

So I would say that Steam, Apple and so on have earned their 30%, they really created a huge market everyone can get a share in. Surely it should be regulated to avoid hostile monopoly behavior, but that’s a different story

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Post by dimitrios1 »

martinjc wrote: post #602
mysterydip wrote: post #304

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The computing power available today is such a double-edged sword. We can do so much more so much faster, but then we (including myself in this) waste so many cycles on abstractions and frameworks and layers of libraries to make our development jobs easier.

Fully agree with you. I am a frontend developer. On my work machine spotify uses maybe 300mb of memory, but on my home pc with opensuse? Image what it uses... 1.1GB.. The same as my brave browser with 4 tabs open. What is going on.

I imagine your work machine, just like mine and everyone I've ever had, has application level limits to how much resources it can consume, spotify picks up on the limits, and adjusts accordingly?

As to what its doing with all those extra resources on your linux box... shrug maybe using your laptop to train its models or mine crypto?

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Post by angoragoats »

bombcar wrote: post #724
Reason077 wrote: post #656

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Some very steep price rises here! I would have thought with Apple’s scale they would have much of their memory purchases locked in to long-term supply contracts that would insulate them somewhat from the market, but I guess that isn’t the case. Either that or they’re just taking advantage of the situation to juice their profits!

Delivery times on many custom things was through the roof, likely we now know why. They don't even have the 512GB Mac Studio anymore, and it's uncertain if such a thing would exist in a theoretical M5 Ultra now. (If 128 GB of RAM upgrade is $1k, 512 would be $4k minimum, probably a lot more)

512GB of matched DDR5 DIMMs at retail will currently run you $14k-20k+ depending on speed. So I’d imagine a now-hypothetical upgrade to 512GB on the Mac Studio would be in that ballpark.

Re: Apple raises prices of MacBooks, iPads

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Post by ksec »

jacobgold wrote: post #274

Some unc perspective: I paid ~$6,000 in inflation-adjusted dollars for a computer in 1996. Today, I can get the same power in a $6 single board computer. A powerful modern mini PC starts at ~$600. However painful these price hikes are, and they are painful, it is worth remembering that computing has become incredibly ubiquitous and cheap.

I am so glad this finally get mentioned and at least upvoted on HN. Many are taking hardware improvements and cheap pricing as granted.

Not to mention a lot of these price hikes will need to major improvements in the coming years that were either previously not possible / sustainable or pulled in a few years forward.

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