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Re: United Airlines 767 returns to Newark after Bluetooth name sparks alert

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Post by Scroll_Swe »

godelski wrote: post #951
Scroll_Swe wrote: post #697

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's the woke shit behind it that is annoying. Would you say the same if it praised Israels bravery? Honoured Charlie Kirk? Said anything you don't agree with?

And that's worth stating a fight over? I don't care if your SSID says "godelski smells bad", it's a silly thing to start a fight over. Just be a functioning adult. Ignore it and move on with your life. It'll never affect you as soon as you decide not to look at it. It's really that easy Stop making this about partisan politics. It was never about that

Then why do it in the first place. The whole reason is to make some "statment"

Re: United Airlines 767 returns to Newark after Bluetooth name sparks alert

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Post by Scroll_Swe »

defrost wrote: post #938
Scroll_Swe wrote: post #929

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I will ask you the one question. Should Israel exist at all according to you? If you say no, you basically are saying "Fuck Jews" to 99% of Jews.- Linking some fringe group wont change that. :) Either leftie or nazi, they both have the same views on Israel it is crazy.

The core of Israel is orthogonal to settler expansionism. The first is what we, Australia, beach headed for Jewish communities back in 1917. The second is deplorable behaviour that was initially somewhat excusable and has since degenerated into a sickness.

Yes or no, do you think Israel should exist as a country?

>settler expansionism

More and more meme words.

Yes or No?

Re: United Airlines 767 returns to Newark after Bluetooth name sparks alert

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Post by anigbrowl »

koiueo wrote: post #692
anigbrowl wrote: post #451

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually, I don't think it's a good idea to bring your politics into a an enclosed pace like this where people are forced to be a captive audience, notwithstanding that I agree with theparticular sentiment expressed. > you have the right to express it Out in public sure. In an airplane you're in someone else's private space (ie the airline's) and everyone is not only confined with you in minimal comfort, they have no…

> Actually, I don't think it's a good idea to bring your politics into a an enclosed pace like this where people are forced to be a captive audience "not trying to make a political statement", but... Can we say, that Palestine is an enclosed space, considering its total land and sea blockade? Oh, the irony

Don't be disingenuous. In the very same sentence you quoted from, I mentioned that I happened to agree with the pro-Palestine sentiment. I then went on to explain that it's the broadcasting of personal sentiments to everyone else on the plane that's bothersome.

Re: United Airlines 767 returns to Newark after Bluetooth name sparks alert

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Post by anigbrowl »

ExoticPearTree wrote: post #652
anigbrowl wrote: post #451

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually, I don't think it's a good idea to bring your politics into a an enclosed pace like this where people are forced to be a captive audience, notwithstanding that I agree with theparticular sentiment expressed. > you have the right to express it Out in public sure. In an airplane you're in someone else's private space (ie the airline's) and everyone is not only confined with you in minimal comfort, they have no…

> In an airplane you're in someone else's private space (ie the airline's) and everyone is not only confined with you in minimal comfort, they have no way to leave. Its not private space. Its public because they sell tickets. Its like going to any other event, and I don’t think there’s a constitutional exception to free speech on airplanes where you can’t express your opinions.

If you buy tickets to a concert or a movie, the fact that they're on sale to the public does not make it a public space. You're a guest in a private space and can be thrown out if the operators feel you're being an ass. On a ship or plane, you can't safely be thrown out mid-journey.

Re: United Airlines 767 returns to Newark after Bluetooth name sparks alert

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Post by anigbrowl »

virgil_disgr4ce wrote: post #460
anigbrowl wrote: post #451

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually, I don't think it's a good idea to bring your politics into a an enclosed pace like this where people are forced to be a captive audience, notwithstanding that I agree with theparticular sentiment expressed. > you have the right to express it Out in public sure. In an airplane you're in someone else's private space (ie the airline's) and everyone is not only confined with you in minimal comfort, they have no…

> Actually, I don't think it's a good idea to bring your politics into a an enclosed pace like this Ah yes, the classic "your politics," but of course the person having this opinion's politics are perfectly fine, because they're the "normal" person with the "normal" politics, not like that crazy person who thinks some randos shouldn't be the subject of genocide. How dare they!

You should try reading to the end next time.

Re: United Airlines 767 returns to Newark after Bluetooth name sparks alert

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Post by jim33442 »

fluidcruft wrote: post #426
jim33442 wrote: post #374

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Nowadays I don't need to remove shoes in the US. I vaguely remember times it was randomly required or not, not sure when, and back when it was always required. I'm not TSA precheck or anything. But yeah we have the liquid limit, which always seemed like the one dumbest thing to me, maybe even a way to sell drinks.

Unless it has changed for a while the TSApre lines don't make you take off shoes and belts vs the regular lines. I also think they stopped making TSApre tahe laptops and iPads out of bags. But it may also have to do with equipment upgrade cycles and what was deployed to which lines.

TSA precheck was originally for avoiding removing shoes, belts, and laptops. I had it at some point and gave up because random lines kept making me remove stuff anyway, but only telling me that after my bag was already taken aside for search, so it wasn't worth.

Newer xray machines don't require anyone to remove laptops. It's about 50/50 whether I get a new machine lately. Just today at SFO, had to remove laptop but not shoes.

Re: United Airlines 767 returns to Newark after Bluetooth name sparks alert

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Post by brigandish »

godelski wrote: post #940
brigandish wrote: post #934

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Your first two statements are a straw man and thus, become a non-sequitur. > As soon as you declare the possible effect to be effectively infinite in magnitude, you can justify any level of response to any level of risk. The possible effect is not effectively infinite in magnitude, and no, it does not justify any level of response. Even if a rogue state decided to bomb a plane, that would not justify a nuclear strike…

> Your first two statements are a straw man I think you're reading two comments up. You can't just make a strawman and then when someone calls you out on it claim that they're making a strawman. Though I'll admit, you gave me a good laugh. But troll harder. Either try harder to sound like an intellectual or learn more into the crazy fingers in your ears "la la la" character

I quoted the straw man, so there's no mistake (on my part), and I would advise you to take a look at the HN guidelines before writing more comments. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html#comments

Re: United Airlines 767 returns to Newark after Bluetooth name sparks alert

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Post by K0balt »

K0balt wrote: post #156

This is a hilariously stupid reaction to a stupidly hilarious decision made by a speaker manufacturer. And also a new vector for a ransom-attack on the Bluetooth namespace in certain environments via malicious BLE advertising. The worst thing that could have happened here was for someone to take this seriously.

Removed because someone will probably actually do it.

Re: United Airlines 767 returns to Newark after Bluetooth name sparks alert

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Post by thrownthatway »

Xirdus wrote: post #869
voidpointer wrote: post #788

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So, how did it eventually show up? Owner's phone goes off/airplane-mode, watch starts advertising; someone else wants to connect their BT headphones and sees the name of the watch?

I suspect it went something like this. "Please turn on the airplane mode now." Phone put into airplane mode. Phone disables BT. Watch loses connection. Because of questionable engineering choices, it automatically enters pairing mode and looks for another known device while also broadcasting its name. Most BT and WiFi devices in the area are turned off so the list of broadcasting devices is very short. The plane crew…

> Most BT and WiFi devices in the area are turned off

You’re kidding right?

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