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Re: iOS 17 app sideloading might only be available in Europe

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Also regulation to automatically limit speed of cars - the biggest low hanging fruit when it comes to safety and quality of life in cities keeps getting delayed and crippled because of car manufacturers want to sell fast cars.

Is it just car manufacturers who are not keen on the idea? I for one don’t want a computer that has zero situational awareness, interfering with the controls when I’m driving and responsible for the vehicle. The ability of computers to control the vehicle should be proportional to their perceptive abilities. No output without input.

The situational awareness of humans seems to be the problem here:

It's either "let's make everyone look at me by making a lot of noise" or "nobody's looking, I'll ignore the speed limit"

Not arguing particulary in favor of AI here. I just happen to hate the perception of private vehicles as extension of one's individual freedom. The restrictions imposed on e.g. pedestrians caused by this thinking tend to be ignored.

Public transit for everyone, cars for goods, services and emergencies, that would be my utopia.

I know this is a fringe position.

Re: iOS 17 app sideloading might only be available in Europe

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What’s good about physical SIMs? I do like apple for daring to improve the status quo there, so I want my European Edition with only e-simsz

The last time I dropped my phone and broke its screen I took out the SIM and left the phone in a repair shop. I went home, put the SIM in an old phone. If the broken phone had an eSIM, would I been able to use the old one as a backup? Maybe by going to a shop and askig for a physical SIM. That would be slower and less convenient. A physical SIM fits in a Samsung A40 which is probably the smaller and lighter Android p…

I worry about this so much. I have a Samsung Galaxy S10e that I dread losing or breaking... a family member with a barely more recent Galaxy had to give up a sim slot and a headphone jack. Her phone does add 5G however which anecdotally has not been noticeably faster but has a huge impact on battery life. If I can't keep repairing my phone maybe the next one I get will be an iPhone from Europe.

Re: iOS 17 app sideloading might only be available in Europe

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With automatic updates and SaaS business models, we have fully lost control of our devices. There is no way for me to disable marketing push notifications on any device. I can’t tell Facebook to remove Reels because it’s too addicting. Firefox is my primary brower, but 5x per week I have to switch to Chrome because a website won’t let me login or is acting funky. We have lost control of our devices

>Firefox is my primary brower, but 5x per week I have to switch to Chrome because a website won’t let me login or is acting funky. I have used firefox and adblock/ublock since literally 2007, and have NEVER experienced this. What websites have given you trouble? What functionality doesn't work in firefox? What functionality is even different in firefox? Is it just servers reading your user-agent and saying no?

I'm finding oauth doesn't always work. I haven't run into it recently, but it was annoying.

A documented gap is my SSO provider (JumpCloud)'s Device Trust Certificate only works in Chrome and Safari on MacOS.

https://support.jumpcloud.com/support/s/article/supported-we... https://support.jumpcloud.com/support/s/article/understandin...

Re: iOS 17 app sideloading might only be available in Europe

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Just some anecdata: I use the Outlook PWA (on an iPhone!) to access my work mail and calendar. It does not have notifications, which I really liked for calendar events (because I’m forgetful), so that’s a bit sad. However, there is a decisive pro: It cannot enforce restrictive device policies. What a great feature! UX isn’t half bad either. It actually feels pretty native most of the time.

iOS 16.4 added notification support for websites added to the home screen, does Microsoft need to make a change to use it?

I would certainly think so? The PWA currently does not contain anything about notifications.

Even on your run-off-the-mill desktop web browser, push notifications do not come “for free”. You need a service worker. You need a specific server implementation. It’s not just the Notification API.

Re: iOS 17 app sideloading might only be available in Europe

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I'd hate to see PWAs take hold - browser based apps are never as good on any platform. Give me native apps any day.

> Give me native apps any day. Heavens no. I do not want to be forced to install an app for every single little thing - it's wasteful, detrimental to my security and privacy. Small examples from a recent trip: in Andalusia, there's a bunch of cities with very interesting old buildings (cathedrals, castles remaining from the Muslim era converted by the Spanish monarchs later on, etc.). Each and every one has a differe…

They don't need apps - they just need websites. I didn't say get rid of websites. Hope you enjoyed your trip!

Re: iOS 17 app sideloading might only be available in Europe

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Responding even though I know it’s not going to be fruitful. The way I came to that conclusion is I read what you wrote, which primarily discusses the language, not the idea. See your references to “doublespeak”, “framing”, “headlines”, and “the word sideloading”. You claimed “Installing applications on iOS 17 might be allowed in Europe” would be a more accurate headline. It wouldn’t be, because you can install appli…

This comment sure does seem to have a lot of criticism of language and none for ideas

Yeah, because I’m discussing that with the guy I was critiquing. You may notice I put my opinion on the substance of the conversation in my original reply.

Re: iOS 17 app sideloading might only be available in Europe

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How would app review work?

The whole point is that there would be no app review for independent apps. It's not a technical change in who distributes the software, it's a radical change that results in developers being able to give apps to users without being in a contractual relationship with Apple period.

I'm not sure I follow the chain of comments here. It seems that not having a review would result in less security, which is the context to my comment.
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