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Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by qualudeheart »

nextaccountic wrote: post #225
lostmsu wrote: post #197

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You realize that near human-level AI for $20/month is a bargain in a country where typical mobile phone plan is $25+, and is basically universally affordable?

Universally affordable? Here's two data points for you, minimum wage in Zambia is 13 USD per month, in India it's 65 USD per month.

Maybe people in rich countries can learn to subsist on that much. Combined with the feudalism model that I have elsewhere in this thread promulgrated, this will define the living conditions of the 99 percent as we approach the singularity.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by qualudeheart »

r00fus wrote: post #214
electrondood wrote: post #200

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The future is bifurcated into those who invested in AI companies in the 2020s, and those on UBI.

I strongly doubt the UBI part as it goes against the "religion" of Wall Street and most politicians.

It’s much easier to stomacj than communism. I believe that UBI will be part of the forthcoming neofeudal system.

Rich people will operate private welfare systems that distribute money and housing to poor people. This will be a philanthropically funded version of the current welfare system, but with different tradeoffs made than public welfare systems.

Parents pay their children an allowance. The child must obey the orders of the parents or the allowance can be taken away. Most children exist in a such relationship with their parents and everyone involved is satisfied.

Under neofeudalism, the poor will be as children to the rich. The rich will operate intentional communities populated by their poor people. From the perspective of a rich person it’s like playing The Sims but with real people.

Here is how life under this system will be. You live according to the rules set by the overlord. The rules will be downstream from the personal values of their overlords. Most housing in these communities will be like current housing provided to welfare recipients. It will probably be a spectrum of Tent to Homeless Shelter to Studio Apartment to Small Multi Room Apartment to Small House.

Here’s a question to ponder. How much of a welfare state can the average oligarch provide to how many people under the economic conditions of the post-AGI era?

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by Forgeties79 »

blagie wrote: post #971
Forgeties79 wrote: post #935

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Especially when you can get half decent 120hz ones for like $400-$600 now. If they can't pony up for that then there's a lot more to the story or they are going to be a pain in the rear to deal with whenever you need resoures.

There's sometimes more to the story. Another lesson from my career: No place is perfect. Don't make simplistic judgements.

I didn't say there can't more to the story, but I'm not going to just assume they always have a good reason either. It's not a simplistic judgment, it's simply working with the information I have on hand. If they have a good reason for not giving me the resources I need to do my job better than I'm all ears. I sincerely mean that. Maybe they can't get me the $3000 thing I want, but a $1500 one instead that is a suitable compromise. That being said I'm not just going to hear "no" and then buy what I think I need for the company.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by reisender »

extr wrote: post #107

I've been using ChatGPT pretty consistently during the workday and have found it useful for open ended programming questions, "cleaning up" rough bullet points into a coherent paragraph of text, etc. $20/month useful is questionable though, especially with all the filters. My "in between" solution has been to configure BetterTouchTool (Mac App) with a hotkey for "Transform & Replace Selection with Javascript". This i…

It seems worth it if you find it helpful enough to use it on a daily basis.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by KptMarchewa »

jmnicolas wrote: post #891
luckylion wrote: post #868

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But for anyone in IT or related fields? $20/month feels like a nobrainer if you're in the West. It's like paying for Jetbrains IDEs. I'm a bumbling idiot writing Symfony and Wordpress code and PHPStorm is 150 Euros a year. It probably increases my productivity by that much per day . If ChatGPT saves you more than 60 seconds a day, or makes you work more comfortable, it's easily worth $20.

> $20/month feels like a nobrainer if you're in the West. I earn 2000€ per month as a C# dev in France, (assuming $1 == 1€) I just need a hundred subscriptions like that to have no money left at the end of the month. While I'll admit a 100 subs is a bit much, it's very easy to have 10 or 15. > If ChatGPT saves you more than 60 seconds a day Even if it saved me 4 hours a day I wouldn't be paid more.

You're severely underpaid, juniors with 1 year experience can get more in Poland after tax.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by vimutti »

m3kw9 wrote: post #932
m3kw9 wrote: post #705

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Some reason, this code doesn't work. I cleaned up the 's and have a api key. It says TypeError: undefined is not an object (evaluating 'data.choices[0]')

Is ok I got it fixed, by asking chatgpt to write me some new code.

I'm seeing the same error. How did you fix it? I don't understand what you meant by asking chatgpt to write you new code, I can't even open chatgpt due to high traffic.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by hgsgm »

billythemaniam wrote: post #593
sillysaurusx wrote: post #445

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While I have your ear, please implement some way to do third party integrations safely. There’s a tool called GhostWrite which autocompletes emails for you, powered by ChatGPT. But I can’t use it, because that would mean letting some random company get access to all my emails. The same thing happened with code. There’s a ChatGPT integration for pycharm, but I can’t use it since it’ll be uploading the code to someone…

I don't really see the issue. You are using a service called GhostWrite which uses ChatGPT under the hood. OpenAI/ChatGPT would be considered a sub-processor of GhostWrite. What am I missing?

On properly designed privacy respecting systems, the client sends the request to the trusted server with whatever API keys are needed to make it work.

But that would break the server lock-in subscript model, so only downloadable software would work.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by hgsgm »

evo_9 wrote: post #477
wcoenen wrote: post #315

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> how does society / monetary systems change? What comes next? UBI at best is a stopgap. Money is an abstraction used to manage scarce resources. The fact that resources are scarce is never going to change, because we live in a world with finite space, mass and usable energy. UBI does not seem incompatible with that. It's just a system (on top of the abstraction of money) to allocate scarce resources. Why do you thin…

I disagree on your point that resources will remain scarce. That's true of earth, but long-term, which is really what I'm getting at, that's not the case. We aren't even that far off from mining nearby asteroids; give humanity 100 years, and who knows what we'll be up to. UBI is a stopgap in that it just extends the current system by giving away money; eventually we'll need to move past 'money' somehow.

Asteroids don't provide clean air and water.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by kaveh_h »

jmnicolas wrote: post #891
luckylion wrote: post #868

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But for anyone in IT or related fields? $20/month feels like a nobrainer if you're in the West. It's like paying for Jetbrains IDEs. I'm a bumbling idiot writing Symfony and Wordpress code and PHPStorm is 150 Euros a year. It probably increases my productivity by that much per day . If ChatGPT saves you more than 60 seconds a day, or makes you work more comfortable, it's easily worth $20.

> $20/month feels like a nobrainer if you're in the West. I earn 2000€ per month as a C# dev in France, (assuming $1 == 1€) I just need a hundred subscriptions like that to have no money left at the end of the month. While I'll admit a 100 subs is a bit much, it's very easy to have 10 or 15. > If ChatGPT saves you more than 60 seconds a day Even if it saved me 4 hours a day I wouldn't be paid more.

If it saved you 4hrs/day you could serve more clients if you we’re working as freelancer and therefor more than offset the cost.

If you’re an employee then use that additional 4hrs to focus on other things.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by Forgeties79 »

jeegsy wrote: post #417
Forgeties79 wrote: post #345

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The issue is once you buy a monitor for your work, they're then getting to rent it for free. If you need something to do your job better than they need to pay for it. You hurt yourself (financially) and you are contributing to a workplace culture where employees buy what they need. It's not just a monitor you're paying for! To be clear, I am not judging you. You did what was good for you and took the path of least re…

> you are contributing to a workplace culture where employees buy what they need This is nevertheless a great point. This culture is coming if it isn't here already especially when you add WFH to the mix

I’ve stuck to my guns a little more lately with WFH. When they want something done on a certain time table, if there’s some resource I know that they failed to get me and need, I remind them that it’s going to take longer because I don’t have ______ when they ask “why?”

Frankly, I’ve been surprised at the results. Generally, they just say “OK” and the matter is settled and I don’t have unrealistic expectations saddled on me. It’s what I like about my company, they don’t dance around things. There’s a lot of trust and open communication. Plus every now and then they give me what I need. Because they know I’m being honest and not just trying to buy myself new toys.

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