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SpaceX said to fire employees involved in letter rebuking Elon Musk

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Re: SpaceX said to fire employees involved in letter rebuking Elon Musk

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leesec wrote: post #103
nocoolnametom wrote: post #97

Musk may end up being the most influential person to: 1. Electrify our vehicular infrastructure 2. Get humans to the Moon, if not to Mars 3. Accelerate the unionization of Silicon Valley tech workers His approach to remote-vs-in-office work is less that of a data-informed futurist and more that of an autocrat. Just as he's loudly supporting public free speech as long as it's his speech, I predict within a few months…

Why would companies be democratic? That would be an extreme historical rarity

Why the fuck not

Re: SpaceX said to fire employees involved in letter rebuking Elon Musk

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Post by scollet »

nocoolnametom wrote: post #97

Musk may end up being the most influential person to: 1. Electrify our vehicular infrastructure 2. Get humans to the Moon, if not to Mars 3. Accelerate the unionization of Silicon Valley tech workers His approach to remote-vs-in-office work is less that of a data-informed futurist and more that of an autocrat. Just as he's loudly supporting public free speech as long as it's his speech, I predict within a few months…

If you were not paid to write this comment I feel really bad for you.

It must suck to simp a sociopath who doesn't even know your birthdate.

Re: SpaceX said to fire employees involved in letter rebuking Elon Musk

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Post by scollet »

pyronik19 wrote: post #175
rg111 wrote: post #147

Musk talked so much about "free speech" in recent times! This move is embarrassing. You can't just fire people for criticism.

You have freedom of speech just not freedom from consequences :)

Yes, yes you can.

Re: SpaceX said to fire employees involved in letter rebuking Elon Musk

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Post by scollet »

modeless wrote: post #397
rg111 wrote: post #147

Musk talked so much about "free speech" in recent times! This move is embarrassing. You can't just fire people for criticism.

If you don't understand that getting fired from your job is not what the right to free speech protects you from, you may have lived in a free country your whole life.

Ok. Elaborate. Why is this important?

Re: SpaceX said to fire employees involved in letter rebuking Elon Musk

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Post by scollet »

rg111 wrote: post #206
daenz wrote: post #196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>You can't just fire people for criticism. Why do you believe that?

It looks bad. You can, legally. But after so many events of signalling support of free-speech, I think it is massively embarrassing. (I am neither a Musk fan nor a hater)

> (I am neither a Musk fan nor a hater)

Don't give them an inch.

Re: SpaceX said to fire employees involved in letter rebuking Elon Musk

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Post by scollet »

new_stranger wrote: post #508
jfengel wrote: post #500

I've owned TSLA stock for over a decade, and I believe in the company, but I find Musk increasingly distasteful. If I had sold the last time it was over $1,000... of course that's the silly wishful thinking we all do in a contraction/correction, but goddamn, I want him out of my life. I've already sold some of it, just to assuage my conscience a little (as well as lock in some of my profits). The next good opportunit…

Maybe I've read to much history, or maybe I just need to pay more attention to Musk, but I'm pretty sure he isn't anywhere close to the category of "Terrible Human Being" I have in mind - even for the West.

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Re: SpaceX said to fire employees involved in letter rebuking Elon Musk

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cloutchaser wrote: post #19
numair wrote: post #16

The most disgusting fact I learned in this article is that Shotwell personally backed Musk on denying claims he sexually harassed the flight attended. What? Anyone who knows these people and their friends knows that the situation as described in the media was not out of the realm of possibility. Unless Shotwell, COO of SpaceX, was on that plane and witnessed exactly what happened, she is not qualified to assist in bu…

Indeed, if you don’t want to work for musk, go work for bezos and build rockets for him. I for one think the timing of the sexual claim makes it obvious it’s political, but no one has to work for musk. So leave if you want to, if musk is so offensive. Not everyone company is an ESG obsessed multinational.

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Re: SpaceX said to fire employees involved in letter rebuking Elon Musk

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0daystock wrote: post #139
keremkacel wrote: post #115

Isn't this against some non-retaliation laws?

At will employment. You can be fired anytime for any reason, and there's not much in the way of recourse. Though you also get to quit without notice at such a job.

No. This is bullshit propaganda.

At-will only benefits the employer.

It does not benefit the employee in any way.

At all.

At-will, in a sane world, means that a company cannot fire an employee unless they severely disrupt business operations, but the employee can quit and recieve unemployment benefits.

But I don't trust you to understand basic human decency so let me communicate that in a way you can understand: goo goo ga gah, bllblblbbb goo goo ga gah.

Re: SpaceX said to fire employees involved in letter rebuking Elon Musk

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Post by scollet »

sam_goody wrote: post #495
mysore wrote: post #399

seems kinda hypocritical. would be scared to go to mars with this guy.

I don't see why it is hypocritical. I am pro free speech, but would never dream of using company resources to try to publicly embarrass my CEO. And certainly not when the issue at hand is not related to company performance. > would be scared to go to mars with this guy. Anyone who is against Musk will add this to their litany of complaints. Anyone who loves him will be baffled why this is a story ;) As an aside, even…

> would never dream of using company resources

Have you tried considering that you have no spinal column?

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