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Is making effective weapons evil?
Given the history of US military adventurism and that we’re about to start another completely unjustified war of aggression against Iran, yes. Absolutely yes.
Wow, and the only restrictions Anthropic asked for are (1) no mass domestic surveillance and (2) require human-in-the-loop for killing [1]. Those seem exceptionally reasonable, and even rather weak, lol :| [1] https://www.anthropic.com/news/statement-department-of-war
Trump doesn't want another election to happen. He needs some powerful tools to ensure that happens, ie, massive scale ai surveillance and manipulation. Eg, like Xi uses in China. I bet anyone here he starts a war as his excuse
>@grok what type of political system is most often associated with the government forcing private companies to change their policies and do whatever the government wants?
>Fascism, via its corporatist model: private ownership remains, but the state directs industry to serve national goals...
Trump's behaviour seems fairly normal fascism but thankfully the rest of the US system seems unenthusiastic.
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If we were able to give the Ukrainians fully automated kill bots, and those kill bots enabled Ukraine to swiftly expel the Russians from their territories, would that not be a good thing? Or would you rather the meat grinder continue to destroy Ukraine's young men to satisfy some moral purity threshold? If we could give Taiwan killbots that would ensure China could never invade, or at least could never occupy Taiwan,…
Rephrasing your "inquiry" to highlight how short-sighted this is: If giving the ukranians nuclear warheads could help them default Russia, then isn't that good? Wouldn't using nuclear warheads to erradicate Russia end the war almost immediately? Like, why are we even bothering with automated killing robots? That's stupid. We already have nukes, and they're the ultimate weapon, so just do that. Do you not see how this…
No, it's not. Skynet was a recursively self improving ASI. You are conflating an autokill bot and, apparently, an ASI that can embody and replicate itself.
> If giving the ukranians nuclear warheads could help them default Russia, then isn't that good?
Surely, you can recognize how an autokill bot and a thermonucelar weapon are different, right? These are categorically different concepts. What's more, Russia is a nuclear armed opponent with, reportedly, dead man's hand systems that would launch their entire nuclear arsenal even if their command structure is destroyed in a nuclear first strike.
I'll just repeat the basic point here: autokill bots are coming. Whether any of us like it or not. Just like nuclear weapons. If I could wave a magic wand and eliminate all weapons of mass destruction in the world, I would. But that's not reality. So, walk me through how you think this plays out if we don't develop them, but Russia, China, etc. do?
I can't think of a more clear cut case of moral, justified deployment of autokill bots than to aid Ukraine in expelling the Russian invaders.
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If Anthropic moving to Europe was better for Claude, why has Europe not produced Claude?
Europe doesn't have a culture of throwing illimitate money at startups with little hope of getting anything back. Which is probably due to not having petrodollars.
Are you implying that venture investors in US have been losing money on IT startups? Care to provide references?
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The language in the tweet was " Effective immediately, no contractor, supplier, or partner that does business with the United States military may conduct any commercial activity with Anthropic." Is that just his fantasy or?
Yes. It's fantasy. However tariffs are legally fantasy too. This administration is a machine turning Trump's legal fantasy to reality.
Yet, look at how all of the media and how many people in this thread are saying Department of War instead of Department of Defense, even though legally it’s still the DoD as it cannot be renamed without congress. Just because “Trump said so” doesn’t mean something is legitimate.
Why is everyone voluntarily complying with a wannabe dictator? It’s the very people of this country that are turning his dictator fantasies into reality by not standing up to the bully.
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A lot of things are different when it comes to national security, and military. Congress could come up with an act it it's for national interest. The military isn't the typical End User.
Congress could, but didn't. Instead, the federal government made threats to retaliate if Anthropic doesn't comply.
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Or all the stupid shit this regime has done, this is the most sane. They want the department to fight wars. At least they’re being honest.
Except they don’t, because fighting a war requires congressional approval.