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Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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Post by drawkward »

DanielHB wrote: post #838
red-iron-pine wrote: post #835

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It is really the same reasoning with dictatorships, even if the dictator is good, competent and capable his successor most likely won't. Democracy is the best form of government because there are clean, regulated ways to transfer power. Not a scramble for dominance that once settled is meant to last in perpetuity. You're assuming that there will be a successor, in a democratic sense.

I see no reason why it wouldn't, they don't seem to be trying to dismantle the voting system. I am not super familiar with the US system but my impression is that a most of it is handled at the state level, not the federal level.

Perhaps the planners are smart and are subverting the election systems quietly while we are all focused on DOGE.

Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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Post by apical_dendrite »

jdross wrote: post #809
ttpphd wrote: post #207

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gullibility is a thing, which is why we demand people go through channels of accountability, including security clearances.

For what it’s worth two of my friends did have to get appointed positions including these clearances

Getting a security clearance, particularly a high-level clearance takes a long time. They send investigators to interview people you've worked with, check records, etc. It can take over a year for a normal person. The only way I see these people getting clearances this quickly is if they just skipped the background investigation, on orders from senior people in the Trump administration.

And there's just no way they would have given Big Balls a clearance through the regular process.

Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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Post by almosthere »

dang wrote: post #684
dang wrote: post #37

All: if you're going to comment here, please make sure you're up on the guidelines at https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html , and don't post low-information / high-indignation comments that could just as easily appear in any related thread. Such generic comments make discussion less interesting and more activating. That's not what we're trying for here. Rather, we want curious conversation. I know that's n…

I spent all day responding to the replies here, and then detaching them in order to save space at the top of the thread. But I just had a better idea. This is a stub comment so we have a single root to collapse the replies. This way (1) replies can stay close to their parent (the top comment) without flooding the screen with offtopicness; and (2) we can all re-experience the timeless truth of https://en.wikipedia.org…

Dan, can we BAN all political threads unless we have fairness. There are a fair number of HN users that also want the USAID scandal covered with a post with 1500 comments. The time for HN to be left biased needs to come to an end.

Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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Post by dang »

concordDance wrote: post #794
dang wrote: post #684

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I spent all day responding to the replies here, and then detaching them in order to save space at the top of the thread. But I just had a better idea. This is a stub comment so we have a single root to collapse the replies. This way (1) replies can stay close to their parent (the top comment) without flooding the screen with offtopicness; and (2) we can all re-experience the timeless truth of https://en.wikipedia.org…

I'm quite curious on your retrospective thoughts on this thread once this article goes off the front page! Also whether you'd do the same again. Having looked around, probably around 80% of comments are mostly uninteresting/partisanship (though a fair few of those combine the mud slinging with an interesting fact or argument, which complicates categorization). (Aside: One of the issues for me is that on high emotion…

My thought is that it's not great in absolute terms but reasonably ok in relative terms. Any thread on a topic this intense is going to have a lot of qualities that aren't good-for-HN.

We do some moderation things to try to nudge it in a more reflective/interesting direction, but there's a limit to how much that can help.

Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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Post by Nasrudith »

braza wrote: post #284
9283409232 wrote: post #106

The question no one asking is why Elon is sending a team of teenage programmers and not a team of financial auditors if he really wanted to cut government spending?

> team of teenage Maybe it's a question of wording, but I would agree if the word were "inexperienced" instead of teenage (in reality, they are young adults). I have no horse in this DOGE race and all the discussions, but I find this "reverse ageism" (for lack of a better term) quite sad, 'cause it does not sound condescending but infantilizes youth and hides one of the biggest elephants in the room in the modern wor…

Yeah, there is a trend towards an absurd infantilization that would call 26 year olds children. It seems to me to have grown first out of a desire to acquit themselves of responsibilities combined with the junk pop-science about brain age fully forming and a desire to acquit themselves of poor decision making and their own bad outcomes, and then later used as they grew older use to dismiss others.

Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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Post by talldayo »

rayiner wrote: post #727
dmbche wrote: post #719

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https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cjw4g2q62xqo Ordering them to delete everything they got copies of, and the subsequent frustration from Musk. Why cares who personally violated federal law? However he managed to, Musk got unlawful access to restricted data.

> Why cares who personally violated federal law? However he managed to, Musk got unlawful access to restricted data. Can you articulate what federal law you think that order says was violated?

Okay "law bro", get real. He's a finance CEO gutting the CFPB as we speak: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2025-02-10/doge-back...

America wrote and upheld several antitrust acts with the express intention of stopping this. It's not enough to say "there isn't a precedent so it's fine", your credentials as an attorney do not obviate the illegal conflict of interests at play. You're being obstinate to defend moral absurdity to the highest degree.

Businesses will sue, they will cite damages and they will have a rudimentary path to proving it. Unless America thinks free market capitalism is a sham, the only way Musk can get away with this is fleeing the country in 4 years. I would love to hear your assessment of how a fair court under American law would rule in Musk's favor.

Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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Post by talldayo »

skrebbel wrote: post #761
romeovs wrote: post #756

tesla.sexy contains the following text, which is slightly concerning: love your fate become your own ubermensch you are the master of your soul be kind there is so much to love, so much to live for follow your heart, ok?

Why is this concerning? Note, it seems to me like their reference to "ubermensch" is to the Nietzschean definition [0] and not the Nazi remix. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Übermensch

> Why is this concerning?

If I saw this on my dinner table one morning I'd assume someone committed suicide.

Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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Post by LastTrain »

jdross wrote: post #185

I realized I’m treading in extremely hostile waters here, but the stories I hear from folks working in DOGE are closer to “I spend 8am to 2am with the leaders of department X going through all contracts and outflows and identifying what is important versus wasteful given a target of saving $X million per day, and there are some great people in this department who really know what’s been going on and it’s been great t…

Let's hear more then. Name some names, departments.

Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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Post by LastTrain »

jdross wrote: post #803
Aurornis wrote: post #199

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> Versus whatever the media is reporting Where? The lack of transparency from DOGE has been a pain point even for advocates. I haven’t seen anything more than generic “we’re doing good work, trust us” PR The media is reporting the history of some of these people and their actual actions. Of course these people aren’t going to discuss their past membership in script kiddie DDoS groups or their highly racist Twitter ra…

Honestly it seems to me like a shock and awe PR campaign combien md with a daily grind. It’s been like 15 days, what thoughtful work do you think it’s being announced that happens that fast from a cold start (including hiring!)

You JUST SAID two comments up that you had personal knowledge of thoughtful work going on.

Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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Post by wordofx »

walls wrote: post #894
wordofx wrote: post #711

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It looks like the crims are being kicked out at the moment.

That’s because you’ve been lied to.

Orrrr maybe you’ve been lied to. Which you have been based on all the data that’s come out over the years.
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