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Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by replwoacause »

bhouston wrote: post #290
griomnib wrote: post #84

I consistently get significantly better performance from Anthropic at a literal order of magnitude less cost. I am incredibly doubtful that this new GPT is 10x Claude unless it is embracing some breakthrough, secret, architecture nobody has heard of.

Yeah, I've switched to Anthropic fully as well for personal usage. It seems better to me and/or equivalent in all use cases.

Same. Honestly if they released a $200 a month plan I’d probably bite, but OpenAI hasn’t earned that level of confidence from me yet. They have some catching up to do.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by replwoacause »

LeoPanthera wrote: post #286
subroutine wrote: post #277

Part of my justification for spending $20 per month on ChatGPT Plus was that I'd have the best access to the latest models and advanced features. I'll probably roll back to the free plan rather than pay $20/mo for mid tier plan access and support.

That's a weird reaction. You're not getting any less for your $20.

Really? Because that’s how I feel too.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by xpe »

fragmede wrote: post #772
ganzuul wrote: post #770

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There are people like that. We don't know what's up with them.

It's pretty easy to explain. You see, they're unable to produce a response that isn't in their training data. They're stochastic parrots.

The paper that coined the term "stochastic parrots" would not agree with the claim that LLMs are "unable to produce a response that isn't in their training data". And the research has advanced a _long_ way since then.

[1]: Bender, Emily M., et al. "On the dangers of stochastic parrots: Can language models be too big?." Proceedings of the 2021 ACM conference on fairness, accountability, and transparency. 2021.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by rank0 »

SoftTalker wrote: post #672
rank0 wrote: post #635

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Why is high salaries an insane thing?

On the one hand, there's the moral argument: we need janitors and plumbers and warehouse workers and retail workers and nurses and teachers and truck drivers for society to function. Why should their time be valued less than anyone elses? On the other hand there's the economic argument: the supply of people who can stock shelves is greater than the supply of people who can "create value" at a tech company, so the lat…

I don’t even remotely understand what you’re saying is wrong. Median salaries are significantly higher in the US compared to any other region. Nominal and PPP adjusted AND accounting for taxes/social benefits. This is bad?

Those jobs you referenced do not have the same requirements nor the same wages…seems like your just clumping all of those together as “lower class” so you can be champion of the downtrodden

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by adr1an »

__MatrixMan__ wrote: post #668
mtlynch wrote: post #664

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Kagi Ultimate (US$25/mo) includes unlimited use of all the Anthropic models. Full disclosure: I participated in Kagi's crowdfund, so I have some financial stake in the company, but I mainly participated because I'm an enthusiastic customer.

I'm uninformed about this, it may just be superstition, but my feeling while using Kagi in this way is that after using it for a few hours it gets a bit more forgetful. I come back the next day and it's smart again, for while. It's as if there's some kind of soft throttling going on in the background. I'm an enthusiastic customer nonetheless, but it is curious.

Makes sense. Keeping the conversation implieas that each new message carries the whole history, again. You need to create new chats from time to time, or throttle to a different model...

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by antihero »

mtlynch wrote: post #664
submeta wrote: post #394

I actually pay 166 Euros a month for Claude Teams. Five seats. And I only use one. For myself. Why do I pay so much? Because the normal paid version (20 USD a month) interrups the chats after a dozen questions and wants me to wait a few hours until I can use it again. But Teams plan gives me way more questions. But why do I pay that much? Because Claude in combination with the Projects feature, where I can upload two…

Kagi Ultimate (US$25/mo) includes unlimited use of all the Anthropic models. Full disclosure: I participated in Kagi's crowdfund, so I have some financial stake in the company, but I mainly participated because I'm an enthusiastic customer.

How would you rate Kagi Ultimate vs Arc search? IE is it scraping relevant websites live and summarising them? Or is it just access to ChatGPT and other models (with their old data).

At some point I'm going to subscribe to Kagi again (once I have a job) so be interested to see how it rates.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by mtlynch »

antihero wrote: post #979
mtlynch wrote: post #664

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Kagi Ultimate (US$25/mo) includes unlimited use of all the Anthropic models. Full disclosure: I participated in Kagi's crowdfund, so I have some financial stake in the company, but I mainly participated because I'm an enthusiastic customer.

How would you rate Kagi Ultimate vs Arc search? IE is it scraping relevant websites live and summarising them? Or is it just access to ChatGPT and other models (with their old data). At some point I'm going to subscribe to Kagi again (once I have a job) so be interested to see how it rates.

I've never tried Arc search, so I couldn't say.

I think it's all the LLMs + some Kagi-specific intelligence on top because you can flip web search on and off for all the chats.

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