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Post by heavyset_go »

mmsimanga wrote: post #950
Tiktaalik wrote: post #880

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I don't understand how anyone could look at everything Elon has done around the Boring Company and still think he's some sort of genius.

IMHO you can be a genius in a few areas of expertise but you cannot be a genius at everything. There is no such thing as a person who is a genius at everything so every person we call a genius is actually a genius at a few things at most and not all things.

IMO, the only thing Musk is a genius at is using money to create a rabid cult of personality. He's very good at that.

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by sgt »

rdl wrote: post #388

I am in shock. I don't really care that much about anything on Twitter, but this implies either 1) we're not going to get to Mars from SpaceX or 2) the level of capriciousness is in excess of my tolerance for life support/other critical operations. I hope someone else steps up, because I'd like to get to Mars.

Yes, it's frustrating to see Elon spending so much time on social media crap when he could be focusing on things that actually has real long term value for humanity.

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by asteroidbelt »

yellowapple wrote: post #672
asteroidbelt wrote: post #246

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This is not exactly free speech issue, because Twitter does not ban based on political preferences/opinions. This is dishonest competition (all other major companies do the same but not as blunt: Facebook, Google, Amazon for example). Twitter could be an exception. But it won't.

> This is not exactly free speech issue, because Twitter does not ban based on political preferences/opinions. Freedom of speech encompasses far more than just "political preferences/opinions". > This is dishonest competition (all other major companies do the same but not as blunt: Facebook, Google, Amazon for example). 1. I know of exactly zero other social media platforms that ban the mere mention of other social m…

> I know of exactly zero other social media platforms that ban the mere mention of other social media platforms

WhatsApp banned links to Telegram.

Facebook ranks links to Twitter/YouTube lower than content without such links.

> Precisely none of those companies are owned entirely by individuals claiming to be "free speech absolutists"

Either Elon Musk is no longer "free speech absolutist" or does not consider Twitter policy must match his personal preferences.

> Mastodon is not a company, major or otherwise

Competition may be not only for money, but also competition for users. It is quite possible that critical number of users will leave Twitter for Mastodon.

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by asteroidbelt »

jesboat wrote: post #771
asteroidbelt wrote: post #246

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This is not exactly free speech issue, because Twitter does not ban based on political preferences/opinions. This is dishonest competition (all other major companies do the same but not as blunt: Facebook, Google, Amazon for example). Twitter could be an exception. But it won't.

> This is dishonest competition (all other major companies do the same but not as blunt: Facebook, Google, Amazon for example). Twitter could be an exception. But it won't. During the #deletefacebook movement, Facebook didn't ban links to or discussion of competitors.

Perhaps because not a lot of people posted links to their new profiles on Facebook and Facebook did not consider that a threat.

But Facebook bans links to Telegram in WhatsApp.

Also Facebook ranks posts with links to Twitter (or YouTube) lower than other posts.

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by kaba0 »

redbell wrote: post #685
britneybitch wrote: post #18

Wow. PG did not even post any links, he pretty much just said "I have a Mastodon account." And just like that, banned. Looks like now you're not allowed to so much as mention that you use other websites on the internet besides Twitter.

Well, I think I have to update my understanding of "Free Speech". It's such a simple concept on paper that got extremely complex to deal with once deployed to production.

I think twitter couldn’t be more mismanaged than under this narcissistic idiot, but free speech is far from simple — you just get mindless shitposting and hate speech without some form of moderation.

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Post by garbagetime »

dm319 wrote: post #332
garbagetime wrote: post #73

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You are wrong about what PG said. In fact, his Tweet included an explanation of where to find a link to his Mastodon account. Elon has made it clear that these blatant attempts at ban evasion are not allowed.

I'm curious - I've seen his tweet. Can I ask you: 1. Are you just an advocate for following a website's terms? 2. Or do you think there is credibility in these terms?

Have I been advocating following Twitter's rules? No. I've simply been explaining what those rules were (they have since been reverted) and how PG broke them.

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Post by rsolva »

davidgerard wrote: post #578
DonHopkins wrote: post #551

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Does it make any sense to spin up your own little Mastodon server just for you and your most trusted friends, so you don't have to spend any time moderating content?

Yes, but the main problem is that Mastodon is very large and fat. Running it for more than a few people is expensive. There's also Pleroma (the Akkoma fork is recommended) and Misskey. There are people working on server software to be fully a part of Mastodon without spending $30/month. It should be possible to do this much more efficiently.

I've run GoToSocial as my personal instance for a few weeks and although it is still a very young project, it has worked reliably for me. Since it is a Go project is bare uses any resources, ~100mb RAM and almost zero CPU. I host 3 personal accounts connected to ~1000 accounts (folliwers and followed) in total. Run it on my Proxmox at home.

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Post by foogazi »

roflyear wrote: post #766
RivieraKid wrote: post #158

Honestly it's hilarious to see the Elon worshippers turn against him. Paul Graham and Ryan Jones - check. Tim Urban, Andrej Karpathy, Sam Altman - no comment so far, but I suspect they're not on Elon team anymore. Lex Fridman - no chance, that guy would gladly follow him to grave.

Lex is a strange human. Seemingly smart, but also supportive of a lot of weird shit. Also he says he's neutral - but don't criticize Joe Rogan!! lol

Lex really likes self driving cars, chip brain implants, mars colonization - he has no other way to go here

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Post by Tepix »

b33j0r wrote: post #822
sillysaurusx wrote: post #594

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Paul’s unbanned now.

I vaguely feel like someone (ahem) is trying to get us to riot over silly things, as an experiment. It doesn’t make any sense.

The co-investors into Twitter must be less than happy.

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by oneeyedpigeon »

hocuspocus wrote: post #467
lvl102 wrote: post #215

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I agree. Mastadon in concept is OK but execution is quite poor.

> Mastadon > Mastadon Is this word especially hard to write properly somehow? At least, please let your spell-checker do its job.

> Is this word especially hard to write properly somehow?

Yes, as evidenced by your frustration. It was a poor decision to use that word as the name in the first place - hopefully it hasn't hampered adoption too much.

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