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Post by BryantD »

slg wrote: post #386
threatofrain wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From official Twitter support: > We recognize that many of our users are active on other social media platforms. However, we will no longer allow free promotion of certain social media platforms on Twitter. > Specifically, we will remove accounts created solely for the purpose of promoting other social platforms and content that contains links or usernames for the following platforms: Facebook, Instagram, Mastodon, T…

Notice that TikTok isn't on the list. Seems like Musk crafted the rules in a way to ensure that one of his favorite Twitter accounts is safe from this rule about posting links to other social media.

YouTube also isn’t included. I think it’s possible that while the policy is foolhardy and vague, he deliberately excluded video sites.

This means he’d have failed to achieved his purpose, since TikTok is certainly a competitor even if the medium is video rather than text, but I also don’t think he understands social media all that well.

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Post by yellowapple »

asteroidbelt wrote: post #246
easygenes wrote: post #22

Free speech!

This is not exactly free speech issue, because Twitter does not ban based on political preferences/opinions. This is dishonest competition (all other major companies do the same but not as blunt: Facebook, Google, Amazon for example). Twitter could be an exception. But it won't.

> This is not exactly free speech issue, because Twitter does not ban based on political preferences/opinions.

Freedom of speech encompasses far more than just "political preferences/opinions".

> This is dishonest competition (all other major companies do the same but not as blunt: Facebook, Google, Amazon for example).

1. I know of exactly zero other social media platforms that ban the mere mention of other social media platforms.

2. Precisely none of those companies are owned entirely by individuals claiming to be "free speech absolutists".

3. Mastodon is not a company, major or otherwise. It's a "competitor" to Twitter in the same sense that me raising chickens in my backyard makes me a "competitor" to Tyson or Foster Farms.

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Post by hinkley »

sapporo_197 wrote: post #361
threatofrain wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From official Twitter support: > We recognize that many of our users are active on other social media platforms. However, we will no longer allow free promotion of certain social media platforms on Twitter. > Specifically, we will remove accounts created solely for the purpose of promoting other social platforms and content that contains links or usernames for the following platforms: Facebook, Instagram, Mastodon, T…

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Given his current behavior, it seems more likely he did consult lawyers, didn't like what they told him, and elected instead to Do It Live.

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Post by bnralt »

colordrops wrote: post #532
bnralt wrote: post #509

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Yeah, I can't see how "I can't post my handle here so go to my website to find it" isn't an effort to bypass restrictions. That doesn't mean that what Musk is doing is good, or that trying to bypass restrictions is bad. But there's this strange trend recently where in order to be part of one "side," you have to start uncritically repeating anything that looks good for your side, or else you'll be accused of shilling…

If musk decided to ban use of the letter A in tweets, whether PG ran afoul of the rule is not an important factor in the story. What actually happened here isn't really much different. Who cares about adjudicating whether he was in line with the rules or not? The rule is insane and the real story is that Elon is banning colleagues with little thought.

> If musk decided to ban use of the letter A in tweets, whether PG ran afoul of the rule is not an important factor in the story.

You'd certainly be justified in saying that a rule banning the letter A is ridiculous. But you wouldn't be justified in then going on to claim that a Tweet that contains the letter A doesn't contain it, and downvoting anyone who points out it does.

[Edit: Not just downvoting. Now the post that said they thought it went against the new terms of service has been flagged and removed.]

There's this unsettling trend where once someone thinks they're on the right side, the truth no long matters. Or worse, should be considered verboten if it doesn't back up maximalist claims. And when enough people are doing this, measured discussion is no longer possible.

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Post by actionfromafar »

Eji1700 wrote: post #587
wereallterrrist wrote: post #421

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33991851 Why is it so plainly obvious to many of us and so god damn impossible for others to see it. Elon is not a genius. You got duped. Just accept it and realize he's a petty tyrant whose ego is exploding. It explains every single thing that has happened, and yet people are so desperate not to accept it.

He’s a less self aware Steve Jobs. For whatever reason people will throw themselves on the tracks for them.

Yes, well put. Steve was ... scary, but at least he seemed to know it.

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by mhitza »

srrr wrote: post #609
britneybitch wrote: post #18

Wow. PG did not even post any links, he pretty much just said "I have a Mastodon account." And just like that, banned. Looks like now you're not allowed to so much as mention that you use other websites on the internet besides Twitter.

The European Union Digital Markets Act, coming into effect in May 2023, explicitly forbids such behavior. (If twitter is classified as a "gatekeeper".) https://commission.europa.eu/strategy-and-policy/priorities-... Example of the “don'ts” - Gatekeeper platforms may no longer: - treat services and products offered by the gatekeeper itself more favourably in ranking than similar services or products offered by third p…

The way Elon seems to like to take his chances, Twitter pulling out from the EU/EEA market might be a possibility. Personally I think that would be beneficial, as even more would switch to Mastodon in 2023. Even if I don't use social blogging websites myself, I think that would be a net win.

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Post by pests »

consumer451 wrote: post #478
SilverBirch wrote: post #134

There's kind of three options here: * Elon is personally policing twitter, and has banned PG in a fit of pique, despite literally being at a party in Doha the world cup * Twitter's staff are just being crazy over the top with bannings - this might actually be the most likely. It's kind of obvious that Twitter has some automated systems that suspend accounts when they get mass reported, and some people with a sense of…

> despite literally being at a party in Doha the world cup I wasn't sure that you were serious, but lo and behold... https://imgur.com/a/kyoI2X6 picture was posted by: Chief of Public Affairs - Air Force/Space Force (prior position: Space Force 45th Space Launch Delta Media Relations Chief)*PERSONAL ACCOUNT-OPINIONS ARE MY OWN

Elon tweeted a video he took at the game, not like he's hiding it.

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by reaperducer »

britneybitch wrote: post #18

Wow. PG did not even post any links, he pretty much just said "I have a Mastodon account." And just like that, banned. Looks like now you're not allowed to so much as mention that you use other websites on the internet besides Twitter.

Looks like now you're not allowed to so much as mention that you use other websites on the internet besides Twitter.

I think soon getting kicked off of Twitter will become a tech badge of honor. Like having a gmail address back when it was invitation-only.

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