Live data from Hacker News

More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’

theatlantic.com

971–980 of 1001 posts

Re: More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’

#971

I feel like COVID has become like a marshmallow test for adults, where those who can manage their emotions and make rational decisions can set themselves up for greater long-term rewards. It looked for a while there like this could be a thing that gets “done”—that we would get a good vaccine into enough people, then incidence would decline so far it just goes away. That didn’t happen. We’re stuck with it for a forese…

No post body was provided.

Re: More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’

#972

I'm vaxxed. I'm boosted. I'd very much like to be done. But my children cannot be vaccinated. As a parent of a young kid it kind of feels like everyone has just moved on. I know folks in here will tell me that statistically speaking my children are unlikely to be hospitalized and so on, and I agree. But I know enough kids who got COVID and suffered the symptoms (e.g. a months-long scratchy cough) that I'm not going t…

You've got your anecdotes, and I've got mine. My 3 young kids all caught omicron last week. Each were lethargic for a day, had a minor sore throat, and were back to normal in a day or two. The flu last month was way scarier with high fevers. There's a lot of reason to be optimistic about omicron.

This is the same experience I’ve had people describe to me for the other variants. COVID is mostly dangerous to those with other issues. If you’re healthy and have a strong immune system then you likely won’t have severe symptoms

Re: More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’

#973

I feel like COVID has become like a marshmallow test for adults, where those who can manage their emotions and make rational decisions can set themselves up for greater long-term rewards. It looked for a while there like this could be a thing that gets “done”—that we would get a good vaccine into enough people, then incidence would decline so far it just goes away. That didn’t happen. We’re stuck with it for a forese…

> We’re not going to be done with vaccines and mandates. And that does not have to be a big deal.

Sure it does. My body, my choice. I have no problem quarantining myself and have left my house less than 40 times in 2 years. I’m quite capable of managing my health and preventing others from getting what I don’t have so why take the risk with the vaccine? Do you believe that there are no long term effects?

Re: More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’

#974

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I know someone who almost quit a great job because they were mad about a vaccine mandate from their employer. [...] That is what failing the marshmallow test looks like. Or perhaps it's a matter of personal principle. Personal conscience and conviction used to be held sacred in the US ... to the point that conscientious objectors wouldn't be forced to fight in wars (they could be assigned to work as medics in Army…

I think you've got the causation wrong. People didn't start rejecting the vaccine because of the mandates. Mandates came about because large percentages of the population weren't getting vaccinated. And why weren't they getting vaccinated? Because COVID denial poisoned the well of information. Even today, there are virtually no facts about COVID that you could get 95% of Americans to agree upon. My guess is that clos…

> My guess is that close to 5% would disagree with the statement "the SARS-CoV-2 virus is real".

My guess is that you also don’t understand the reasons why others are denying the vaccine. Do you think some people are incapable of doing the only thing that will help us, isolating? Vaccines are child’s play to staying in your damn house.

From my perspective it’s the vaccinated that keep this pandemic going. Exactly in the spirit of this statement. “Vaccinated and done”. People think once they get vaccinated they can continue life like normal. Meanwhile the unvaxxed i know are isolating and most still haven’t caught COVID. The few that have realized, after having few or minimal symptoms, that this entire mandate thing is about control.

TLDR, no they’re exactly on point. Democrats are wannabe dictators and the goal of the mandates are an attempt to test power.

Re: More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’

#975

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Vaccines were never expected to stop the pandemic. They were expected to stop people from dying from the pandemic. They are doing that. So far, vaccines have saved 1.1M Americans from dying from covid and saved 10.3M Americans from needing hospital treatment for covid [0]. Preventable Covid-19 cases can lead to higher health and life insurance rates. Firing employees who refuse the vaccine is smart business. Vaccine…

> Vaccines were never expected to stop the pandemic. They were expected to stop people from dying from the pandemic. Unless you listened to Joe Biden, the President, who said this in October 2021: “We know there is no other way to beat the pandemic than to get the vast majority of Americans vaccinated” https://www.aol.com/news/biden-defends-vaccination-requireme...

Well it’s true without vaccinations we won’t have a chance to beat it. Doesn’t mean we will. It’s just one big part of a public health epidemic, and without we fail.

Re: More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’

#976

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you've got the causation wrong. People didn't start rejecting the vaccine because of the mandates. Mandates came about because large percentages of the population weren't getting vaccinated. And why weren't they getting vaccinated? Because COVID denial poisoned the well of information. Even today, there are virtually no facts about COVID that you could get 95% of Americans to agree upon. My guess is that clos…

> My guess is that close to 5% would disagree with the statement "the SARS-CoV-2 virus is real". My guess is that you also don’t understand the reasons why others are denying the vaccine. Do you think some people are incapable of doing the only thing that will help us, isolating? Vaccines are child’s play to staying in your damn house. From my perspective it’s the vaccinated that keep this pandemic going. Exactly in…

Your descriptions aren't typical of the unvaxxed people I know. The unvaxxed people I know have, from the very beginning, been defiant against isolation, school closures, masking, and the vaccines. And most have spouted some version of "COVID is a hoax" from the very beginning, and continue to do so, even when what they say is incoherent. In 2020 "stay home" was supposedly a power grab. Now you claim you always embraced that message. #TeamHoax mutates as fast as the virus, it seems.

Re: More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’

#977
post #482

I feel like COVID has become like a marshmallow test for adults, where those who can manage their emotions and make rational decisions can set themselves up for greater long-term rewards. It looked for a while there like this could be a thing that gets “done”—that we would get a good vaccine into enough people, then incidence would decline so far it just goes away. That didn’t happen. We’re stuck with it for a forese…

> I know someone who almost quit a great job because they were mad about a vaccine mandate from their employer. That situation is impossible to assess without knowing the job description. I would also be hesitant to work at a place if the employer demands vaccinations because they are refusing remote work even when the job description does not require it. We have a pandemic and employers need to minimize unnecessary…

If an employer demands vaccination they should be liable for all possible adverse effects, including indefinite long term care costs.

Re: More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’

#978
post #535

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The main reason to wear a mask is to prevent yourself from infecting others if/when you get infected again. One usually becomes infectious before the symptoms become obvious, i.e. before becoming aware of the new infection. Wearing a mask is mainly for the benefit of others, not for your own. And it’s a game of numbers. The larger the proportion of the population who wears a mask, the more the spread of the virus is…

Where I live (TX) I would say less than 30% of the population is wearing masks, and the governor has gone so far as to mandate that mask mandates are illegal (using emergency powers, which creates a bit of circular reasoning and are quite likely not a legitimate order, but... that's beside the point for my personal decisions). I was one of the very small percentage actually wearing US made N95 masks, and assuring the…

'Am I going to legitimately continue to spend $ buying good masks, to potentially protect a small subset of the population ...'

Please stop that. Don't martyr yourself doing safetyism for me. Getting yourself healthy may be best for everyone.

Once we saw the Canadian border close to travel while the Mexican border stayed open, it became blindingly care this has been theater. Many people like theater.

Re: More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’

#979

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is there much difference between getting a booster every 6 months rather than every 12-24 months? Compared to lockdowns or even just mask mandates, both booster schedules seem like a pretty minor inconvenience given the pandemic-halting benefits.

These pandemic-halting benefits seem to be illusory with delta and omicron. The drug companies seem to have no particular motivation to release updated vaccines. If I'm going to be forced to keep current on a shot if I want to be employed or enter buildings, it should come with some form of justification that is periodically evaluated. If it doesn't work, the inconvenience should not exist. If the virus mutates and r…

Yet people who pay TSA a couple hundred bucks for PreCheck, and the elderly, don't take off their shoes. Like a potential shoe bomber can't figure it out. More theater and safetyism.

Re: More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’

#980
post #294

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you are one of the lucky few that doesn’t get unpleasant side effects for 24-48 hours afterwords, this may be true. I am not, and anecdotally nobody close to me is either. It’s not a pleasant experience that I want to repeat ad infinitum. Particularly if it’s not even going to stop the current C19 variation.

Have you tried just taking a Tylenol?

You're not supposed to be taking anything that affects your immune system like that when you get the vaccine.

They literally tell you that. Stop handing out medical advice that's wrong.

Post reply on HN