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YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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Just to add a data point, but back when I still was working for a video distribution startup, we offered our customers the ability to directly import their video inventory from YouTube. They were the owners of the videos, it was just a convenient (and very popular!) feature for them to let us handle this import. We used YouTube-dl for this, of course. No way we could have done this easily without it. We imported hund…

To add another item to the list of legal, legitimate uses of YouTube-dl: lots of public domain content is uploaded to YouTube, including a lot of media produced by the US government. For example, The White House has a YouTube channel, and my understanding of US law is that the vast majority of the content uploaded to that channel is public domain (produced by federal employees in the course of their job). Journalists…

I'd love to be wrong here, but there are two separe things, content license and general YouTube terms of use, I think the terms prevent you from downloading any content, the fact that some content is licensed CC has to do more with being explicit, perhaps for displaying publicly or just informative, and I want to think they are leaving a bit of gray area for non abusive use(tons of downloads) , but you can see there is no download button, and if you build something that depends on it to certain scale they could go after you with terms of use, not license.

If you can prove me wrong with some link to where are we covered legally to download CC content from YouTube, it would make me very happy.

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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This is just the next terrifying development on Planet China. YouTube-dl went unmolested for years. About week ago, I was party to an online conversation a week ago about how youtube-dl is an important tool for archiving videos of public officials before they can be disappeared.

Coincidence?

After the RIAA won a case against Limewire in 2010, the next significant legal action I can find in a bit of looking is that the US Supreme Court ruled against the RIAA in Allen v. Cooper (March 23, 2020).

Here are the opinions: https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/18-877#writing...

I have a lot to look into...

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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I would like to add to the discussion that there are many perfectly legal uses of YoutubeDL: * Downloading a video you uploaded and no longer have stored locally. * Downloading a video to create a fair-use response video. * Downloading video/music that is free commons (or some other non-restrictive license). * (Gray) Downloading content to archive it. * Downloading content you have already purchased and have in your…

what stops somebody from just screen recording your material?

The end game is every device having a watermark detector. The PS3 wouldn't play BDs with pirated in-theater movies for example, due to audio watermarking.

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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Is there any legislative or regulatory work that is trying to address the gigantic mess that is music (or media in general) copyright and licensing in the US? The DMCA is over 2 decades old, and seemingly nothing useful has come up since. The current system seems to do not much other than provide a big stick for the RIAA and MPAA to wield whenever they get bored and try to extract rent using law that still seems stuc…

The DMCA was intended to give large content publishers a big stick to extract rent from third parties without needing to do any work. It is functioning as intended and is very unlikely to be reformed to favor the public interest. If anything, the next DMCA will be tilted even further towards publisher interests. The latest EU publisher payout copyright 'reform' -- which, among other things, banned photography of buil…

>The latest EU publisher payout copyright 'reform' -- which, among other things, banned photography of buildings and skylines

That sounds like absolute nonsense, unless you can cite a source. First of all the EU has no power to actually pass laws, only make draft recommendations. Secondly the whole "copyrighted buildings" thing is about prohibiting commercial use of a structure's image in advertisements etc.

Hyperbole does not help your cause.

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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Very pathetic that Github took this repository down. I was about to move our company code over to Github from self hosted Gitlab, this move has put the a the brakes on that.

If anyone thinks that Github had no choice but to follow the legal notice, I want to mention that youtube-dlc [1], a community fork of youtube-dl, is also taken down. This fork is not even mentioned in the DMCA notice [2]. Github is complicit in this.

[1] https://github.com/blackjack4494/youtube-dlc [2] https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2020/10/2020-10-2...

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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post #423

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I think you have it backwards. Google is very much on the same side as RIAA in this case. Youtube-dl is simply too convenient for avoiding the ads.

Does your ad blocker not already remove the ads?

It won't be able to once Youtube embeds ads in the videos (which is step 2).

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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post #158

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I think you are misunderstanding the legal argument. The DMCA Section 1201 specifically prohibits (among other things) technology that "is marketed ... for use in circumventing a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title." The example in the README is evidence of this. The argument is that youtube-dl is primarily used for breaking DRM not just that it could be used fo…

> The example in the README is evidence of this. it wasn't in the readme, it was in the test suite. I don't think it would be difficult to argue that downloading the world for the sole purpose of making sure the downloading worked was not an infringement (or, alternatively, was fair use).

I'm in no favour for the RIAA but just imagine. It would be a 300IQ move if that specific pull request was engineered by RIAA themself.

Please pull that test case... Fooled! Now there is a legal reason. Here is the DCMA takedown notice.

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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Note that RIAA is making this takedown because the software CAN be used to download copyrighted music and videos, and it uses examples in the ~~README~~(unit tests, see correction[1]) as an example of that: > We also note that the source code prominently includes as sample uses of the source code the downloading of copies of our members’ copyrighted sound recordings and music videos, as noted in Exhibit A hereto. For…

Test cases using copyrighted works probably not a good idea... Since one could argue that part of the code is run frequently.
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