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Re: XCancel service is suspended until further notice

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Post by tovej »

benrutter wrote: post #939
xvedejas wrote: post #924

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is the point really to be profitable? Or could perhaps its owners be willing to risk losing money for more power over the information landscape?

Yeah, that's a really good point that I hadn't really considered. Although, maybe the same argument stands? If X's lockdown leads to less users, then doesn't that translate to less control over the information landscape too?

Well, if one of the big social media platforms is now a far-right playground, that changes the political landscape.

Elon Musk is using twitter to create a global far-right platform that right-wing politicians can use to experiment with talking points before watering them down and bringing them to the public.

Re: XCancel service is suspended until further notice

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Post by alt227 »

ocd wrote: post #61

I don't see how any government or business (especially the former) can justify using X at this point when it doesn't serve the public interest or the interest of customers who deserve at least some choice. It's as unreasonable for them as using Instagram or a dating app for something intended for broad reach and accessibility. I don't particularly like Bluesky, but it's publicly readable and has RSS. Any real solutio…

> I don't see how

That is your opinion and you are entitled to it, just remember other people have their own and they are entitled to theirs, and no one opinion is 'right'.

Re: XCancel service is suspended until further notice

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Post by nananana9 »

prolly97 wrote: post #956

ITT. Non-X users complaining that they can't use X. If you don't like the content on X enough to make an account, I don't see how this is a big loss. And yes I've on occasion had the same thought with TikTok - it'd be nice to see the vids that people send me, without making an account. But I'll just have to live my life without having seen that one super funny/interesting/enlightening video, or have to ask for a summ…

The primary difference of course being that not a single worthwhile thing has ever been posted on TikTok, while X is a "public space" used by politicians, governments, public figures, news agencies, et al.

I'd like to see the fire department's tweet without having to sign up for X on the spot right now and do a 20 round captcha, followed by a prompt to install the app to verify my age, because suspicious activity was detected.

Of course - ideally - nobody would use this platform for anything important, but given that they do, I'd like open access to it.

Re: XCancel service is suspended until further notice

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Post by ben_w »

CSMastermind wrote: post #917
ocd wrote: post #61

I don't see how any government or business (especially the former) can justify using X at this point when it doesn't serve the public interest or the interest of customers who deserve at least some choice. It's as unreasonable for them as using Instagram or a dating app for something intended for broad reach and accessibility. I don't particularly like Bluesky, but it's publicly readable and has RSS. Any real solutio…

> I don't see how any government or business (especially the former) can justify using X at this point If your logic is that some citizens won't be able to read what is posted there, then I assume you similarly object to other social media platforms, newspapers, cable TV stations, etc.

If my local government or some local business was limited to using one specific newspaper, this would indeed be a problem.

And in reverse, having a concentration of readers (users) on one platform, means that whoever controls that newspaper (platform) gets to be kingmaker for the government and the businesses.

Free speech as a constitutional requirement binding on a government to allow it is great; that government then using one specific private corporation that can use its own status as a non-government actor to have free speech rights rather than free speech responsibilities, means it is a de facto loss of free speech for everyone else.

Re: XCancel service is suspended until further notice

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Post by simondotau »

mitxela wrote: post #929
Raed667 wrote: post #876

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is 2026, it is not hard to publish a "blog" , if you want to share that same content over social networks that's fine but it should be a requirement that the data doesn't solely live in private walled "social" networks

How is posting on wordpress.com or tumblr.com any different from posting on x.com?

1. It's always publicly readable;

2. It is not reliant on any singular corporation, or trusting any singular corporation.

3. The established domain name system proves authenticity.

And of course the information can still be posted to X, etc.

Re: XCancel service is suspended until further notice

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Post by alt227 »

xyst wrote: post #426
newscracker wrote: post #113

This may be a situation where revealing a solution may end up harming it. For those who use iOS and other Apple OSes, I learned of this recently released free Safari extension called Litterbox that allows looking at one post on x.com. [1]: https://andadinosaur.com/launch-litterbox

With alternatives available: - bluesky - mastodon Why does anybody (that’s not some right wing, white Christian nationalist nut job) still use twitter?

> Why does anybody... still use twitter?

Because not everybody thinks the same as you?

People are entitled to their own opinions, just because you think something is wrong doesnt make it objectively wrong.

Re: XCancel service is suspended until further notice

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Post by frumplestlatz »

vrganj wrote: post #890
frumplestlatz wrote: post #826

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t see why I can’t complain about unsupported conclusions derived from poor methodology. X doesn’t owe anyone API to run social research, but especially not activist groups with an active, expressed interest in denigrating the platform.

Again, Comcast is not an "activist group" and the study literally got awarded by the Royal Statistical Society. As a cherry on top, they do owe researchers in the EU (though this was done in the UK, I know Sky has an EU presence as well) API access or similar under Article 40 of the DSA.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49700433

https://www.allsides.com/news-source/sky-news-media-bias

You’re just being brazenly disingenuous at this point.

The publication is left-leaning, regardless of the distant parent company.

The experts they used to design and run the study were literally left-wing political advocacy groups, and a self-declared left-wing disinformation researcher.

The award is an empty appeal to authority.

But none of those facts matter as much as their obvious selection, base rate, and classification methodology failures.

Re: XCancel service is suspended until further notice

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Post by mitxela »

simondotau wrote: post #965
mitxela wrote: post #929

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is posting on wordpress.com or tumblr.com any different from posting on x.com?

1. It's always publicly readable; 2. It is not reliant on any singular corporation, or trusting any singular corporation. 3. The established domain name system proves authenticity. And of course the information can still be posted to X, etc.

1 is untrue, 2 is untrue, 3 is the same as x.com

Re: XCancel service is suspended until further notice

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Post by alexfoo »

jakevoytko wrote: post #859
voidnullvalue wrote: post #792

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Imginn.com/whateverrouteoninstagram So instagram.com/foo becomes Imginn.com/foo Hope this helps!

I know there are like 5 trillion Instagram viewers. But I've never actually needed to use any of them because there is absolutely nothing so important on Instagram that I must see it. The entire site is optional.

Lucky for you, but many people aren't so lucky.

My kids school puts some information that I need to see (not just "would like to see") on Instagram. Same with the sports team they play for.

I've complained to both about it but change is glacial. I'm lucky in that I know how to work around it, and I do my best to keep others who aren't so tech savvy updated about things they need to know but may have missed.

Irony is they moved most of this info from Twitter/X to Instagram.

Re: XCancel service is suspended until further notice

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Post by iinnPP »

Melatonic wrote: post #959
prolly97 wrote: post #956

ITT. Non-X users complaining that they can't use X. If you don't like the content on X enough to make an account, I don't see how this is a big loss. And yes I've on occasion had the same thought with TikTok - it'd be nice to see the vids that people send me, without making an account. But I'll just have to live my life without having seen that one super funny/interesting/enlightening video, or have to ask for a summ…

It's more that tons of local services (like firefighting updates) directly post their latest updates there

Time to pressure the local place to do the right thing.
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