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Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by jonners00 »

hobofan wrote: post #661
71bw wrote: post #654

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>And Apple Maps today is absolutely amazing. Perhaps that is the case in the US, but in Poland, I haven't had a single app guide me into the literal bushes as many times as Apple Maps does. The straw that broke the camel's back was when, I shit you not, the navigation aspect literally expected me to drive through a lake.

This may just be my bubble, but even among my iPhone-owning friends, I haven't seen a single person use Apple Maps in Europe, so I wouldn't be surprised if the efforts to improve the map data have been more focused on the US.

My wife used Apple Maps for a while here in the UK and driving in Europe. The results varied between amusing and traumatic. No issues ever with Google Maps since she swapped (but I know from experience it's not perfect). Apple maps would send her over tertiary roads through mountain passes that were snowed out, instead of salted/gritted primary roads, would show major highway junctions wildly (dangerously) inaccurately and showed areas that had lots of properly mettled roads as open countryside with no thoroughfares at all.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by stasomatic »

alsetmusic wrote: post #924
stasomatic wrote: post #859

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Marco should concentrate on fixing the UX abomination that Overcast has become instead of writing breathy sophomoric letters. At this point, I’ll vibe code my own podcast player.

I mean, whatever your opinion of his redesign of the app (I know a lot of people were pretty unhappy), he is a host on a podcast that has had Phil Schiller (former head of marketing who was on stage with Jobs for many years) as a guest while he was still an Apple exec. He's a known entity to them. Further, one of the other hosts is John Siracusa, the guy who wrote in-depth 18 page reviews of MacOS X releases for ArsT…

Oh I love ATP and even eventually warmed up to Casey. It’s just that “stick to what you know” (or don’t?) thing. I’m not one of those that hate on Tahoe, it’s a temporary distraction, but Overcast more and more looks like some kind of slapped together non native app. He needs to hire a designer, he can afford it.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by jodrellblank »

Aachen wrote: post #806
CarbonCycles wrote: post #389

I commend Apple for hiring someone internally...someone who climbed up the ranks and understands the DNA of the company. Also think it's cool that John Ternus has only a bachelor's degree with a very down to earth presence. I completely dig his LI page being really bare bones. I suspect Apple is about to experience another Renaissance era...

> only a bachelor's degree That people are still judging someone by their school performance (or, less charitably but how I experienced the difference between "poor" and "good" students in about half of the cases: their willingness to deal with arbitrarily set requirements) after being in the workforce for this long says a lot about society. I'm not sure it's a factor when one is comparing devices in a store, which u…

I assume they mean "good that Apple's new CEO doesn't have an MBA".

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by hbn »

KaiMagnus wrote: post #629

I’m gonna keep my expectations in check, but this would be a good opportunity to get back to live presentations. I just watched a 1997 Macworld recording and the audience has really been something that I missed since COVID. https://youtu.be/IOs6hnTI4lw?is=2ZpwOgsBxfMkkloh

I miss the live presentations too, there's no tension or humanity watching a polished prerecorded video compared to someone having to demo live. It would also discourage them from pulling another Apple Intelligence fiasco and announcing a bunch of features they don't have developed yet. Though I'm sure they're more wary of that than anyone for the time being.

Maybe I'm being too hopeful but the MacBook Neo was announced at live presentations in a few cities around the world, and Ternus did the presentation at their New York event. Perhaps the guy is also partial to live presentations? It's not impossible that Apple mostly stuck with the prerecorded presentations because Cook didn't like the old way. I wouldn't say he's the most natural presenter, he always seemed a bit uncomfortable on stage.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by tsunamifury »

mabedan wrote: post #226

If Johny Ive stayed, he could have become CEO... Now he has to design Ferrari dashboards and AI Pins

"What a mediocre designer, I hear all he's ever one is a phone and some music player"

This entire thread is evidence of why hackernews crowd fails to make anything successful anymore, product or otherwise

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by sizzle »

spacedcowboy wrote: post #796
simplyluke wrote: post #237

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I'd also add that from the perspective of an employee in the industry, Tim Cook has had a remarkably steady hand throughout multiple business cycles in the industry that have made Apple a much better place to work than many of the other very large tech companies: no massive over-hiring after covid, no massive layoffs to correct for that, average tenure at the company BLOWS other companies out of the water, a reputati…

yep, I worked there for 20+ years, only retired due to health. I was about middle of the park in my group’s tenure there…

How do you see AI playing out there? Are you glad you got out before AI coding became a thing? What are you up to in your retirement years, anything fun? Thanks.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by apatheticonion »

egorfine wrote: post #737
schnebbau wrote: post #700

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Well, that certainly would be one way to wipe billions from their share price overnight. The only way Linux on Mac will become a reality is if it's legislated.

> Linux on Mac will become a reality Linux on Mac is absolutely a reality [1], and Apple specifically supported it by deliberately leaving a documented/supported mechanism for another OS kernel to be loaded. [1] https://asahilinux.org/about/

I don't want to take away from the hard work put in by the Asahi project because it is amazing.

Linux on Apple Silicon is not a reality on my M5 Pro. I run Asahi on my M1 Pro, but I cannot use my USB-C dock with it and, while amazing, cannot practically use the GPU for gaming or local LLMs.

This limits my ability to practically use it for work and play.

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Post by JetSpiegel »

rootusrootus wrote: post #540
JetSpiegel wrote: post #513

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> no overt politics Excuse me? Giving a literal gold trophy to the God-Emperor Trump is not politics?

So you think he is a Trump supporter, then? I would have guessed precisely the opposite. My assumption is that the trophy was his way of looking out for the best interests of Apple. In that regard probably a fairly good ROI.

> So you think he is a Trump supporter, then?

He literally gave him a gold trophy! How is that not support? It's beyond compliance in advance.

To a president hell-bent on overturning Obergefell v Hodges, even.

He gave him more gold than Maria Corina Machado.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by JetSpiegel »

denkmoon wrote: post #527
JetSpiegel wrote: post #513

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> no overt politics Excuse me? Giving a literal gold trophy to the God-Emperor Trump is not politics?

No, it's just a business tax. Do you see Cook getting on twitter and parroting the god emperor's topic of the day?

It's not a tax, Tim Apple gave him the gold personally, with cameras in tow, he did not submit the ACH data to the IRS.

It's bending the knee.

Why degrade himself, what can Trump do that their trillions cannot cushion?

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by apatheticonion »

schnebbau wrote: post #700
apatheticonion wrote: post #697

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My only hope, however unlikely, is that Apple will recognise that power users, engineers and gamers would really really appreciate running Linux on Macs and they write some drivers for it. There are literally no PC laptops with the quality or hardware offered by even the cheapest MacBook - the software, while fine for general consumers, creators, and some developer workloads, tragically holds back its potential somet…

Well, that certainly would be one way to wipe billions from their share price overnight. The only way Linux on Mac will become a reality is if it's legislated.

Why would it wipe billions from their share price? Both Linux and Windows were available on Mac hardware prior to Apple Silicon.

If I play devil's advocate, the only reason I could think of is that supporting Linux signals to investors that Apple is offering a key to bypass their API moat, perhaps sacrificing a longer term vision of vendor lock-in.

By contrast, I can imagine investors would get upset if the iPhone had an unlocked bootloader and allowed Android to be installed - but that's because the App Store is a significant revenue stream for Apple. I don't think there is a parallel on MacOS that investors could point to as being upsetting.

If anything, optional support for Linux would lift the market cap for Mac hardware as it would close the only pull that other laptop vendors previously enjoyed.

In reality though, just like is historically true, 99% of people would continue to use MacOS. Only SWEs, enthusiasts, gamers and some number of Windows refugees would pick Linux.

Though I am 100% behind legislating Linux support - EU are you listening?

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