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Pontevedra, Spain declares its entire urban area a "reduced traffic zone"

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Re: Pontevedra, Spain declares its entire urban area a "reduced traffic zone"

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Or it becomes too expensive like in germany. Then it will suck too.

€58 a month for all local/regional public transport is very cheap. Where I am, in another part of western Europe, a single-region ticket is normally ~30-50% more expensive than the all-of-Germany ticket.

It is subsidized. Through taxes you pay the full prize anyways. Just that someone else than you who decides, what do with your money, like subsidized public transport.

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I cycled a reasonable distance to work (about 25km a day) here in sunny Scotland and rain wasn't really a problem, or snow - but cycling in really high winds isn't a great idea. Edit: To explain - I was cycling on a that was on top of an embankment and a strong gust of wind unbalanced me at a bad moment when a lorry was passing - I actually hit the lorry with my shoulder and was knocked back upright again. This was a…

Agree about high wind - that does make it miserable.

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I'm looking for a place to move to in 5-10 years, and A Coruña is one of the places I've been researching! A friend from Spain says it's too cloudy/rainy. What do you think about the weather and any points in general about your city?

Maybe I shouldn't answer because housing is becoming prohibitively expensive so I shouldn't incentivize people to come here, but people have helped me in HN in the past :) So I'll do it. In my view it's a city with awesome quality of life. Indeed it's cloudy, rainy and windy but it's better than most Galician cities (cough, Santiago, cough) and not that bad in the grand scheme of things, depends on what you compare t…

> three science museums

I'm in. :-)

But I'm not coming for five, maybe ten years, so at least I won't be the one crowding your city for a bit.

Thanks for taking the risk of overcrowding!

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that's exactly my situation and many of my friends and no problem at all :)

Where do you put the toilet paper? The diapers? I can fill a 400 L boot easily with weekly groceries for a family of 4. Most cargo bikes have max 300L space, you have no space left for children.

So go twice a week? I'm not sure what to call people when they can't solve problems that easy There may be issues with my solution, but if that solution is so obvious, maybe you could have used more words in your comment.

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Pity that whole thing with having a job, and wanting to get some better living standards. People usually don't live in the suburbs by choice, they get pushed there by the higher classes that can afford the city. Having lost access to the city center during my teenage years certainly gave me a perspective on those that talk from above, without worries about everyone else.

People usually don't live in the suburbs by choice, they get pushed there by the higher classes that can afford the city. People in Spain live in the suburbs by choice.

it really doesnt work like that in Spain. The associations say the US has with what a suburd is, and of suburban life, does not translate to Spanish city planning. A better word for "suburb" in Spain would be "outskirts" of city—somewhere you might be pushed to for financial reasons. They are often urbanised areas of cheap apartment blocks, and if rural, not in a fancy way, e.g. large spacious houses. The discussion on this thread is coming from a cultural misunderstanding.

There are of course also very nice houses around cities, and rural ones out from that, but they rarely characterise suburbs in Spain (Barcelona is an exception I've noticed, and Madrid has some satellite towns and cities North of city that are very plush, though not the suburbs).

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Difficult to call it sprawling given the geography, and I don't know what "pedestrianized" even means here since walking in many neighborhoods is both common and designed for. There is plenty of accommodation for vehicles in Seattle, that is true. Even people that walk everywhere often own one in order to take advantage of the prodigious outdoor activities for which the region is famous.

It’s definitely very sprawling from Olympia to Mt Vernon. We only just managed to pedestrianize Pike Place Market. I struggle to think of a pedestrian neighborhood. Just cuz you can walk doesn’t rise to that level. Ballard no. It’s all cars and car parks. Fremont no. U district no. Cap Hill no. Queen Anne no. West Seattle no. They’re all car dominated neighborhoods without much pedestrian space and poor accommodation…

Olympia and Mt Vernon are not part of Seattle. Does anyone think Segovia and Toledo are part of Madrid?

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> Design won't mean you won't get soaked if it happens to rain Sometime I wonder in what alternative world people live in which rain is a problem... Yes it's life, sometimes it' warm, sometimes cold, sometimes dry, sometimes wet. Buy a $10 rain poncho or umbrella and move on lol. How fragile are you that you can't deal with basic things like rain ? There are hard things in life, like your kid getting diagnosed with l…

Rain has been solved: with enclosed vehicles that take you from your home to your destination.

If you have streets as narrow as in e.g. Florence, the rain can only hit you from above, whereas in car-centric suburbia rain can hit you from the sides in basically all directions - so an umbrella blocking the top isn't enough, you need a car.

In other words, the problem here that the car is solving, is a problem that the car is causing.

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> You frequently hear from travelers "Americans are the nicest folks you'll meet" It's fake niceness, it's the American way of being "polite", most times I interact with Americans it's pretty clear it's surface-level niceness, more like a theater than genuinely being it. To me it's quite grating and makes Americans feel untrustworthy. > Scandinavian countries for example score much higher on the individualism scale,…

Yes you're right comrade. If an American is ever nice just remember they're actually untrustworthy and it's all theater.

I know you are being facetious, but its hard to get past the uncomfortable theatre of 'this is all just fake nice for tips' if you are visiting from a non-tipping country.

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Indeed, such a city would prove you lot wrong.

Glad to be proven wrong for the lucky folks living in the suburbs of such marvellous city without being second class citizens, pity that you didn't provide such example, while being so eager to talk others down. Maybe because there isn't such El Dorado.

I already said as much. Here's the quote from above:

> You can't, because there is no such city.

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Is there no demand for grocery stores? Seems like they naturally would pop up to fill demand

Grocery stores are pretty low-margin, and need a certain amount of demand (for the size Americans are used to). Some convenience stores get moderately close to being a grocery store. It'd be an interesting experiment to see how few products you could carry (and of course, only one of each type) and have people still willing to shop there.

> It'd be an interesting experiment to see how few products you could carry

Liquor store comes to mind. There are two cigar shops, two wine shops and a beer shop downtown. Just weird priorities I guess.

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