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John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approves extradition to US

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Post by okamiueru »

busymom0 wrote: post #958
okamiueru wrote: post #865

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I were to take a guess, it might be because the quoted text comes across as conspiratory and opportunistic. It's not that Weinstein shouldn't be free to post tweets about what he likes. It's just that it had no relevance here.

It's well known that Eric knew Epstein. And he shared screenshots of text messages with McAfee (which McAfee himself sent first). How's that opportunistic/"It's just that it had no relevance here"?

If it isn't obvious, then I'm not sure what I can add to it. To each his own.

Edit: I realize this can come across as rude. In short, the unproven "mysterious" GU stuff is something he is trying to advertise. McAfee was recently found dead, and it makes the news. The tweet is a weird rambling that somehow manages (tries to?) throw in some more conspiracy and tie it to GU. In any case, bs alarms are ringing. He expects people to care about GU, but I'm not buying it.

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Post by deterministic »

karlmrax wrote: post #889
deterministic wrote: post #724

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Realise that people can be super nice to you and cruel/evil to somebody else. The serial killer living next door might be a great neighbour. That doesn’t change the facts of what he/she is.

Are you comparing John McAfee to a serial killer? For real?

Of course not. I was using an example to illustrate my point.

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Post by pedalpete »

zamadatix wrote: post #679
pedalpete wrote: post #674

I'm confused by why/how he was arrested in Spain for failing to pay US taxes? Or am I missing something?

It's known as extradition and many countries have extradition treaties with the US https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/da/US_extra... the details of how it works depends on the particular treaty.

It wasn't the extradition that I was confused by, that I get. It was the arrest. I thought extradition only applied to people who had been arrested in one country for another crime and were then being tried in a different country for a different crime.

I didn't understand that the Spanish police would arrest somebody on an accused crime commited in another country.

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Post by colordrops »

chris11 wrote: post #330
colordrops wrote: post #169

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In general yes, but it takes on a different form when the person is an eccentric that has very publicly challenged powerful authorities and has been both the source and target of disinformation campaigns.

He was accused of making bath salts, and he was reported to be involved with prostitutes and much younger women. His reported statements seem to confirm that, not deny that. I probably won't describe someone as evil for committing victimless crimes. But MPDV is a hard drug that's connected to serious, graphic crimes. I believe he was involved with trafficked women in third-party countries, that's rape. So I easily be…

> He was accused of making bath salts, and he was reported to be involved with prostitutes and much younger women. His reported statements seem to confirm that, not deny that.

Open and shut case then. So unattributed "reported" anecdotes on the internet are all it takes these days, huh. No wonder it's so easy to smear and bury people.

Everyone here on HN is so strict about online security and providence and yet assign truth to a story based on anonymous anecdotes.

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Post by colordrops »

twelve40 wrote: post #303
colordrops wrote: post #169

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In general yes, but it takes on a different form when the person is an eccentric that has very publicly challenged powerful authorities and has been both the source and target of disinformation campaigns.

I enjoyed following the guy's adventures (if/when it didn't involve killing people), but what on earth might attract powerful authorities that would go as far as killing him in a Western jail? He's not Epstein and mostly posted fantasies and various minor scams.

There isn't some unified hive -mind organization that controls "western jails". It could be some particular bloc with an agenda that took him out

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Post by colordrops »

duskwuff wrote: post #209
colordrops wrote: post #158

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Was he convincted of murder, or are you acting as the judge and jury based on third hand media reports?

He was never tried, because he fled to Guatemala to avoid prosecution, then faked a heart attack to delay his extradition.

Is your assertion that authority figures are to be trusted and fleeing them proves guilt? Is this deference to authority provided to China and Russia as well?

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Post by ollran »

gregschlom wrote: post #287
notyourwork wrote: post #134

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That Thompson quote really resonates with me, thanks for sharing.

Read the whole book, then if you haven't already (Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas). Truly excellent.

The Rum Diary by Hunter Thompson was also absorbing.

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Post by throw123123123 »

unishark wrote: post #843
amanaplanacanal wrote: post #772

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I believe selective enforcement is a core part of policing in the US. No police agency has enough resources to go after everybody who breaks the law, so they make examples of high profile defendants to deter others.

Punishing someone more than they deserve in order to communicate a point to others, strikes me as a kind of political agenda, not justice.

The law is a political institution

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Post by CRConrad »

Stupulous wrote: post #634
smoldesu wrote: post #449

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> Did you know him? Did you ever even see him once? We're going to need to rewrite an awful lot of history if our standards for judging people are "knowing them and seeing them even once"

I think very little history is about passing judgment on historical figures.

I think history is hardly about anything but passing judgment on historical figures.

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Post by moritzwarhier »

kenneth wrote: post #765
mc32 wrote: post #3

Good or bad, what a sad ending to a colorful life. The guy was troubled and had many shortcomings, but he was colorful and also achieved success and arguably was one of the seminal figures in the nascent AV industry. Sad to see his fall from grace and into a world of extravagance, deceit and cheating (taxes) and, if allegations true, even worse; then to end it on the floor of a jail -all by his own hands.

I wouldn't take the claims of suicide at face value when McAfee has literally stated that if he dies of suicide it's probably a setup. https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/131680121508322509... https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/120086428376625152...

Tbh, that sounds like something a person would say/tweet to make an eventual suicide look heroic and blame it on others.

Someone who firmly believes that he is always treated unfairly whenever someone poses a threat to him or disagrees. I don't know much about the facts around McAffee's fate and this is admittedly pure speculation. But it fits in very well with a person whose ego apparently was through the roof.

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