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100% agree. I'm typing this on a 2015 Macbook Pro, and holding on for dear life, even as it has started alerting me about servicing the battery. It's a great machine. I tried using the touchbar on my son's newer MBP. It's awful, and not meant for serious use. His laptop has been replaced once already due to keyboard issue, and starting to show defects again.

A year back I replaced the battery on my 2013 15" model - like the other commenters, I paid $199 at the Apple Store for a new battery, topcase, including keyboard and trackpad. I also recently bought a used 2015 Pro on ebay as a backup. I have a 2016 13" touchbar pro, and after replacing the original keyboard, I'm actually quite happy with it. But for the 15" model I just don't think the price is justified given the…

Virtualized MacOS because of Mac or iOS dev? Hard to imagine why someone would use a virtualized OS for normal usage or consumption. But maybe I’m missing something.

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I have Windows running along side macOS on my Mac Pro. It boots faster and the video screams... when it’s not installing updates. Seriously. It’s worse than my xBox.

The only reason I want a Mac again is for MacOS's hiDPI support. I can't stand regular screens anymore, and from what I've heard, Windows 10 hiDPI support is non-existent, even for non fractional scaling. Using Windows 10 forces one to either use a low resolution screen, or deal with the consequences (most non-flagship software fails at scaling). And that's not even getting into font rendering issues. Windows 10 can'…

> Windows 10 hiDPI support is non-existent

This is not true.

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The 2018 model shouldn't be called an upgrade in any way.

I much prefer the touchpad. It's so nice being able to click the top part easily.

The 2015 Macbook Pro has the Force Touch trackpad as well (so no physical movement), so it has the exact same feel when you click at the top of the trackpad. Everything before the 2015 did have that issue though, you're correct. Never really bothered me though to be honest. The nicest part of the FT trackpad if you ask me is the ability to make trackpad clicks almost silent, and the fact that it's (supposedly) less likely to break.

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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100% agree. I'm typing this on a 2015 Macbook Pro, and holding on for dear life, even as it has started alerting me about servicing the battery. It's a great machine. I tried using the touchbar on my son's newer MBP. It's awful, and not meant for serious use. His laptop has been replaced once already due to keyboard issue, and starting to show defects again.

Ha! I literally typed out another comment about how I to refuse to leave my 2015 macbook pro for a newer model. The new keyboard, touchbar and usb-c everywhere is so lame

Just ordered a 2015 MBP from the Apple Store, they're still out there!

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100% agree. I'm typing this on a 2015 Macbook Pro, and holding on for dear life, even as it has started alerting me about servicing the battery. It's a great machine. I tried using the touchbar on my son's newer MBP. It's awful, and not meant for serious use. His laptop has been replaced once already due to keyboard issue, and starting to show defects again.

You can buy a like-new, souped-up 2015 Macbook Pro on ebay. I am very happy with mine, except for the new OS.

I just got a certified refurbished one from the Apple Store.

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> Thinner means you take away my ports so I have to carry dongles. I'm not sure it does really. The modern MacBook Air chassis is the same size as the old one. But it's lost Magsafe, a useful keyboard, USB-A, it's lost a port on the 13 inch, and no SD card slot. Apple hasn't got rid of these things for thinness. It's gotten rid of them because of a misguided belief that the replacements are better than the loss of fl…

People have complained about Apple removing things since they first removed floppy drives. They remove them not because of some misguided belief, but because it’s old tech. I have a MBP from 2012 still going strong. When laptops last that long a bit of future proofing is a bonus. If you swap laptops every other year then you obviously miss out on this benefit. PC manufacturers will start removing USB ports and if his…

Floppy is a terrible example to support your point.

When floppies were removed, almost nobody had to purchase external floppy drives to use their existing library of floppies.

1.44mb is pretty useless when you already have a flood of cheap USB flash drives 64+mb at the time.

Heck, even during the windows 95 days, I only touched floppies to be able to boot into ms-dos to reinstall windows.

When you buy a brand spanking new $1500 iPhone Xs and a brand spanking new $4000 MBP and walk out of the Apple Store with no way to connect the two without a dongle, you know you’re eating whatever shit Apple is feeding you.

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Me too. I see little reason to upgrade it. I planned to upgrade it two years ago but am still waiting for something that's up to the expected design. More memory (more than 16 gig) would have been nice when I bought it, but that's the max Apple allowed and it can't be upgraded. I've yet to have to replace my battery. I'm hoping that the 2019 edition is worth buying, e.g. this stuff built in: * Escape key * SD card re…

Out of that list, you'll definitely get USB-C sockets and probably the 1TB SSD. I can't see any of the rest of it ever being on a MacBook again.

You're probably right; but it seems odd that the power adapter is such a step back

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After 8 years of macbooks, after using the 2018 model, I switched to a Dell Precision 5530 running Ubuntu 18.04 and it is awesome. The hardware is great, and having Unix under it all was the only real reason I liked Macs (used to be hardware, too). Granted, I don't need Adobe stuff, or anything else that doesn't run or have an alternative on Ubuntu (although it is dual-booted with Win10, but I've never used it, just…

Were drivers a problem? Did you run into any problems with the nvme SSD? I tried booting Opensuse but it couldn’t see the SSD. Maybe I just need to try Ubuntu.

Basically no, but I did this to fix up an intermittent lock up bug:

https://medium.com/@agathver/nvidia-gpu-optimus-prime-and-ub...

No problems with the nvme ssd that I've noticed. I went with Ubuntu because Dell ships with Ubuntu as an option, so I figured they worked the kinks out :)

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I still think the PowerBook 540c was the best Apple laptop that I ever used. Although I had switched over to Windows by the time of the Pismo G3/500 (voted the best ever), I had my 540c upgraded with a PowerPC, and got many years of delightful service out of it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerBook_500_series I had a 5300 for a while and it was a piece of crap compared to the sturdy souped-up 540c. https://en.wiki…

I never really liked the 500 series - I preferred the 1400 (I know, weirdo). The Intel MacBooks have had their moments (glass trackpads, SD card readers, quad core in the 2011 15"), but almost all of them had design defects of some kind: * Original white and black MacBooks had sharp edges and cracking wrist rests * 2nd Gen MBP had 8600GT chip death issues * First Unibody MB/MBP had glossy screen not suitable for indo…

>* First Unibody MB/MBP had glossy screen not suitable for indoor lighting

This didn't affect me (and it didn't change until Retina, I think), but EM209 " rel="nofollow">https://randyzwitch.com/broken-macbook-pro-hinge-fixed-free/... hit me twice, the second time not covered by Apple.

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> Plus I feel if I really needed a Linux environment, the Linux subsystem would fill that need. Have you actually used it? A bunch of devs I work with continually have issues relating to WSL so i'm not sure if its comparable to macOS.

Early WSL was a pain, but they’ve come a long way. My entire web dev stack works natively on WSL these days–and WSL2 is due any day now, which should make it entirely on-par going forward.

That's big news! Apparently any day now is by the end of June. Here's the announcement for anyone who (like me) hadn't already heard:

    https://devblogs.microsoft.com/commandline/announcing-wsl-2/
I'm a little skeptical given the shortcomings/difficulties I encountered last year, but a solid competitor to macOS as a unix workstation with broad desktop app support would be great to have.
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