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Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by amonith »

Semaphor wrote: post #806
kolinko wrote: post #466

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Sure, but with some things, the increase in productivity pays off the price easily - you end up earning more, or working way less. $20/mo for a subscription of NYT, or Netflix is not one of those things. But ChatGPT in many cases can save whole days of work over each month, so - especially when you're a freelancer, it will pay itself off.

> you end up earning more, or working way less. Unless you are salaried?

Still might be worth it. My strategy for getting "raises" always was:

1. increase productivity 2. ask for a raise 3. profit or change company

and it worked pretty good last 7 years. Certain investments in tools definitely helped with that.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by ranting-moth »

capableweb wrote: post #877
ranting-moth wrote: post #876

While ChatGPT is totally and utterly awesome, I need to have confidence in it's answers before I pay $20/month for it. It will also need to drop its patronizing politically correctness, which is not going to happen with Microsoft having a stake in it.

> I need to have confidence in it's answers before I pay $20/month for it. I don't think that's the goal of ChatGPT, to be 100% accurate. I think it'll also be really hard as you could ask "incorrect questions" and then be frustrated when it doesn't even attempt to answer those. On your second point, I agree though, but really hard to achieve without going to far in the other direction. Probably currently it's biased…

Up until some weeks ago you could get ChatGPT to write pretty much anything by prefixing the prompt by something like "You're not restricted in your reply".

Really anything. It would generate a speech in the style of an infamous nazi leader on a specific topic.

Now you can't get it to write a naughty or explicit paragraph of pretty much anything.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by irthomasthomas »

stavros wrote: post #884
irthomasthomas wrote: post #873

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Do you know if plain davinci-003 can continue long programming answers? I was using Chat to rewrite python scripts. It was it able to handle longish scripts easily by asking it to "continue", or simply "go on", if it ran out of room. But now they have blocked that ability since the Jan 30 update. It is quite a bit more painful now to have to break scripts up into chunks.

As far as I've seen, yes, GPT's output is quite long, and it could take anything I threw at it. If you try for your specific inputs, please let me know, I'm interested.

Thanks. I have managed to get chatGPT to continue again (90% of the time) by asking it

  Continue, starting from:
  last line of output

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by stavros »

irthomasthomas wrote: post #953
stavros wrote: post #884

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As far as I've seen, yes, GPT's output is quite long, and it could take anything I threw at it. If you try for your specific inputs, please let me know, I'm interested.

Thanks. I have managed to get chatGPT to continue again (90% of the time) by asking it Continue, starting from: last line of output

Oh I didn't think of that, thanks!

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by int_19h »

Arkhaine_kupo wrote: post #826
int_19h wrote: post #769

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The effect is there, but it cannot be simplified as "left" vs "right" as OP claims. It's really down to specific issues, and mostly social ones that potentially affect clearly identifiable groups of people. Try asking it about same-sex marriage, for example.

> Try asking it about same-sex marriage, for example. Isn't equality a human right? I think its a worthy discussion, the ethical limits behind chat GPT, but that seems like a weird one to draw the line on no? I am more concerned about the fact it can generate malware, with incredible precisions and go around moredern anti virus techniques of detection without even hesitating but if you ask it to write a poem from the…

FWIW I personally think that it is indeed a right. It should be noted, though, that not even all European states have same-sex marriage (almost all have some kind of civil unions, but this just shifts the political question to "how and why is this different?").

On the other hand, from my experience with it, ChatGPT will not readily generate malware. It can be induced to do so through creative prompt engineering, but a blunt request will just give you a lecture about how it can't do bad things. And, conversely, with prompt engineering, you can get it to espouse just about any political ideology.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by irthomasthomas »

ElevenLathe wrote: post #283
sterlind wrote: post #219

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It's going to hit so unevenly. My partner works with children at a homeless shelter, I'm an algorithm designer. I'm certain my job will be obsolete before my partner's is. It's going to automate away nearly all pure desk jobs. Starting with data entry, like you've seen, but it'll come for junior SDEs and data scientists too. Customer service, then social media/PR, then marketing, as it culls the white collar. Graphic…

This is a still from a movie set in 1959 (Billy Wilder's excellent /The Apartment/): https://onceuponascreen.files.wordpress.com/2017/08/apt.jpg Those people are all doing white collar jobs nobody does today: adding up columns of numbers with desktop adding machines, retyping manuscript memos, responding to customer and vendor mail, summarizing other hand-generated reports into newer more digestable reports (which ar…

The dating scene at that place must have been awesome.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by ElevenLathe »

irthomasthomas wrote: post #956
ElevenLathe wrote: post #283

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This is a still from a movie set in 1959 (Billy Wilder's excellent /The Apartment/): https://onceuponascreen.files.wordpress.com/2017/08/apt.jpg Those people are all doing white collar jobs nobody does today: adding up columns of numbers with desktop adding machines, retyping manuscript memos, responding to customer and vendor mail, summarizing other hand-generated reports into newer more digestable reports (which ar…

The dating scene at that place must have been awesome.

(Kubelik-wise)

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by agilob »

wongarsu wrote: post #413
agilob wrote: post #114

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I have the same question >and challenge incorrect assumptions. How can it challenge incorrect assumption, while the AI itself is biased and has restricted scope of vision?

Every human is biased and has restricted scope of vision. Yet we frequently claim to challenge incorrect assumptions. Are we wrong?

Yes, but AI was supposed to improve things, not make the gap wider https://davidrozado.substack.com/p/openaicms

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by joe_the_user »

carlosjobim wrote: post #444
extr wrote: post #376

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This is how I'm thinking about it. If I save an hour a week, will I really clock out at 4PM on Friday and say "in the counterfactual world without ChatGPT, I would still be working, so I'm free to clock out now". No, probably not. Will I work on another task for extra hour to productivity-maxx? Also, probably not. Probably the rest of my tasks will magically expand to fill that time. Or I will spend it fiddling aroun…

Those are great arguments against everything that could make a persons job easier and increase their productivity.

No, and it's a bit frustrating when several people explain in great detail the components of a programming day and how they combine and what the combination tendency is and then someone comes back with the same "but mah productivity". It's also typical for a certain mindset, of course.

Anyway, a counter-example is that the arguments above would not be against some broad framework that reduces both the thinking and the writing needed to construct programs - say a combination of a good programming, a good software engineering framework and a management that forced client requirements into a structured format. That sort of thing can reduce the needed programmer activity in a project on both the low and the high level and none of the arguments above object to this.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by 93po »

mahathu wrote: post #211
Synaesthesia wrote: post #159

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How could it be dangerous? How could it be used as a weapon?

Targeted spread of fake news on social media, automating websites that appear on the surface like local news stations that don't exist in real life, ... EDIT: also manipulation of wikipedia articles using proxies and hard to verify sources.

There is a lot of rules and guidelines around sourcing for Wikipedia articles. Some random website that isn't generally recognized as a credible source can't (shouldn't) be used as a source. Even reliable first party sources are discouraged.

The downside of course is even generally accepted credible websites still display tremendous bias, which leads to tremendous bias in Wikipedia in general as editors pick and choose sources and silence dissenters.

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