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Re: Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

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To stick to with the poker analogy, the measure success is not if you win the hand when you flop a full house, but how big a pot you walk away with. Anybody can walk away with the initial stakes in that situation, the real skill is to use that hand to walk away with all the money at the table. Lots of people start life with a lot more than he was given and walk away with a lot less.

He was arrested and charged with ~30 felonies and plead guilty to 1 in a plea deal and was due to spend over a year in federal prison. So what exactly did he win?

So what exactly did he win?

Rich friends, a presidential pardon and no doubt a rich and easy life going forwards.

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Texas is only slightly smaller. But perhaps splitting both in 3 (or whatever) would be a good start. Or split any state that has more than 4% of the nations population (that would include FL and NY). Practical hacks like that might mitigate the imbalance, but really - the senate needs proportional representation too. It's OK that small states are slightly over-represented, but the current state of affairs is pretty c…

> the senate needs proportional representation too No, the Seventeenth Amendment should be repealed and state legislatures should be required to appoint senators. The United States form a federal government, not a unitary state; that means the several states should be represented. > If the senate were proportional, we could simply abolish the electoral college with little loss; just let congress elect the president a…

Regardless of how senators are picked, it's deeply problematic if representation is so divorced from population size. Alternatively, if we insist on retaining a fixed number of senators per state we could strip the senate of essentially all of its powers (perhaps becoming more advisory in role, with only the capability to temporarily filibuster house legislation); but that strikes me as being even more unachievable.

But personally, I don't think appointed senators would practically help much.

The point of federalism isn't to achieve some ivory tower ideal of centuries past, but to have real value today. Some of the value we can still retain is flexibility: essentially letting states go their own way for many laws and regulations. That benefit of federalism is quite real, and imposes no requirements that the senate needs to have appointed senators vs. elected, nor that the number of senators be fixed (vs. scale with population size). I'm pretty sure we can mitigate the deadlock, lack of accountability, and undemocratic representation issues with today's congress+executive while also eating our federalist cake.

To be clear: I don't think of this is worth pursuing as political reform; it's entirely unachievable due to the US's virtually unamendable constitution (basically only populist amendments are ever achievable, never this stuff; states need to large agree, after all - and pure political power play makes that utterly impossible).

Re: Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

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> Is adding states too easy? There are three million US citizens in Puerto Rico without representation in Congress. "Statehood is too easy" is probably the wrong critique. The problem is that there is not clear enough guidelines for enforcing some criteria for what constitutes a new state. Thus we have a false positive like Wyoming, which shouldn't be a state with its minuscule population, and we a false negative in…

> The problem is that there is not clear enough guidelines for enforcing some criteria for what constitutes a new state. Thus we have a false positive like Wyoming, which shouldn't be a state with its minuscule population, and we a false negative in Puerto Rico, which is anachronistically governed like a colony . Wyoming met the requirements when it was admitted, but its population hasn't grown as much as other state…

Apparently Puerto rico overwhelmingly voted in favor of statehood, but turnout was low.

In any case - your points against redistricting are good. But even a "temporary" solution might have centuries of value, so I don't think it's entirely unreasonable to make a pragmatic push for limited redistricting, specifically only splitting large states - fusing states is much harder (because which laws apply?), and given population growth, it's pretty reasonable to have more states. Judging by the size of the house - which is probably too small, not too large - the senate has a lot of room to grow. We could certainly afford splitting all of the large states without causing huge issues - if people actually want that.

But a more long term solution without redistricting is to give up on the notion that states are equal. Just give more senators to larger states, and fewer to small states, and the current system mostly works; certainly better than now, and without the need for as radical an imposition as state-level redistricting.

Re: Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

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I support a lot of these pardons for non-violent drug offences, mainly because the US justice system issues such needlessly long sentences, and the US penal system is so harsh. But AFAIK, Trump hasn't done anything to address these while in power, and given his usual rhetoric about "law and order" targeted at a very conservative audience, the cynic in me can't help but wonder if a lot of these pardons are to detract…

>But AFAIK, Trump hasn't done anything to address these while in power https://www.npr.org/2018/12/17/676771335/how-trump-went-from...

It's not very convincing:

"Trump's endorsement of the Senate's First Step Act stands in stark contrast to some of the rhetoric he has employed while in office"

"Trump, too, at times has argued that drug dealers are not punished enough"

"He has even talked about wanting to utilize the death penalty against drug traffickers" (yikes!!!)

And then there is the executive order that Trump made targetting BLM protesters, where damaging a federal building can lead to up to 10 years in prison, and he spraffed at length about coming down hard on them. Funnily enough, he wasn't saying anything like this about the Capitol Hill rioters...

I think one of Trump's biggest flaws (if we put aside megalomania), is that he wants to be loved by everyone - I always got the impression he'd say anything to anyone if he thought it would get them on side, regardless of whether he actually believed it.

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What's not serious about stealing and selling trade secrets, jeopardizing life-saving R&D, blatantly disrespecting the law, and walking away with hundreds of millions of dollars expecting not to be caught?

He declared bankruptcy, hence walked out much poorer than he started. At the end of the day it was IP theft, which for regular people creates more competition and can accelerate the "life-saving R&D". IP laws exist for a good reason, but it's hard to say that he has done serious damage to society.

Stealing property is not a victimless crime.

Re: Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

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The nice thing about executive orders is they can be added by the next guy. Would be nice to see this as actual law, and not an executive order -- but if Trump cancels anything on his last day, Biden can re-do it on his first day.

But it won't apply to former Trump administration workers. That's the point, I'm sure Biden will have a better ethics policy but it can't be retroactive

Ah... so those who could line up a gig in that window would be grandfathered potentially.

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Here's the context in question: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25847994

"Levandowski denies saying this."

If I had said it, and was currently being put on trial for a lot of my other behavior, I'd deny it too.

Re: Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

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"Dog whistle" is a term bat-shit-crazy people and opportunists use to mark whoever they like on anything they can drum up. "You think what he said was inoffensive? That's because it's a dog whistle!". It's not that some dog whistles don't exist (e.g. upon secret societies, etc). It's that it's used as a weapon with the flimsiest of excuses. It's the 2020 version of "Have you stopped beating your wife?" question.

To believe that dog-whistles exist as an actual thing used effectively, one would also have to believe: a) A group of people (e.g. white supremacists) do not already know that the dog-whistler (e.g. a politician) is a member or sympathizer of their group b) That this person who sympathizes with this secret group wants to signal sympathy with this secret group, but cannot do it directly (that is, by email or letter or…

I disagree on a), b), or c) being requirements of dog-whistles. That just feels superficially wrong.

Re: Anthony Levandowski Pardoned

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There are shitty people of all walks of life. I'm sorry to hear that you didn't have a good family/upbringing. Glad you found a place that you are more happy in. The media has spent the last 4 years portraying Trump and his voters as evil racists. What is not mentioned is that his support among minorities increased from 2016 to 2020. He had more black and hispanic percentage of voters than any republican in in living…

Thank you, however I am not asking for your sympathy. I'm challenging your assertion that critics of Trump's supporters and OP are just "brainwashed by the TV", and your framing of this dynamic as just "both sides" seeing "themselves as the victim and the others as the attacker". My experience was not some one off event, or story that applies to just my family, it reflects a culture of racism common in this country,…

"Immigrants are just here to sign up for welfare"

"People from the south are racist bigots"

"Minorities are lazy criminals"

"White people who disagree with my politics are white supremacists"

These are all different flavors of the same poison.

Just how you can use your antidote to justify your statements of prejudice against groups of people you don't like, equivalent people from the right will citing FBI crime statistics until they're blue in the face to justify their prejudice.

In that respect there is parity between the right and left.

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