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I never got why, if they really want the touch bar, they don't do both . F-keys and touch bar. I kinda would have welcomed this because the "fn" key is a horrible presence on any laptop keyboard anyway and I'd happily would have seen them delegate screen brightness and audio to the touch bar as a separate input.

Getting away from Fn entirely is tough -- it's still useful as a way of simulating keys like PgUp/PgDn/Home/End (Fn+arrows) and forward delete (Fn+Backspace).

Why laptop makers deleted those keys from the keyboard I'll never understand. With just an extra column of keys to the right of Enter, you get delete, page up, page down, home, and end. All very useful keys, right at your fingertips. Panasonic does it right on their rugged laptops, and some other manufacturers still have those keys on some business models, but most have done away with them.

I mean, look at the Dell XPS 15 keyboard. All that space on both sides of the keyboard, and yet they make us chord to do something as simple as Page Down.

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I think Apple has a patent

Last I heard someone else has the patent. Not Apple. Maybe someone with background information can shed light on the story.

Apple does have a patent, but I don't know if it's the only one http://patft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=...

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I had to wait three months for Lenovo to replace my X1 Extreme's motherboard because switching to discreet graphics to install Linux bricked it.

That must have been a wonderfull f *up on the part of your service center. Here where I live they would have to refund you the machine, if they weren't capable to repair it within 30 days (while under warranty, which I assume X1 Extreme was). The only manufacturer, whose service is able to achieve 30 days here is Apple ;). With Lenovo, and previously IBM, I've had experience to have issues fixed NBD, even when I was…

Well shipping was like 30 days late so they tried to say it wasn't eligible for return.

I just got it back and as much as I want to use it I'm trying to return it still...

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Well it has decent window manager with multiple desktops, does not require antivirus and supports Adobe. For graphicdesign/developer there really arent many other choices. Also if you work with sound its hands down best OS.

In what way is MacOS best for working with sound? The industry has long ago moved on to Windows.

I'm not so sure about that - I can't remember the last time I was in a studio that wasn't running macOS to be honest.

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Agreed, the Linux support for the Dell XPS machines is excellent.

For real? I have Dell XPS at work an had tons of problems installing linux on it. I ended up finding a respined Ubuntu ISO in github that has plenty of patches pre-applied that mostly works, but still have some issues now and then with random freezes and with a thunderbolt dock. Admittedly, I was not a desktop linux user and didn't have much experience tinkering with it, but a coworker of mine who has been using linu…

Try updating the firmware of the laptop and possibly the dock. Then do a clean install of Ubuntu. I just upgraded my stock 18.04 with stock 19.04, everything works great.

Now that I think of it, you can boot with the LiveCD to see if it will help before trying this.

If the random freezes continue you may have bad ram or other components need to be replaced.

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Not till Jony Ive leaves? I think this is the root of most of these Apple design faux pas... he goes back to the Steve Jobs Era and was definitely blessed. With Steve gone there is probably no one at the company who can actually say "This is the worst !@#$%^& thing ever!" like Steve Jobs liked to say. Tim Cook doesn't seem to be a product guy or something and trusts Ive too much. Ive's ideas were good back in the day…

> I gave it back after a month when I admitted I was wasting 40% of my work time chasing linux issues. I feel like this isn't spoken about enough. Or that I'm doing something wrong which most people who say how their lives have changed for the better by switching to Dell+Ubuntu don't experience. I really liked MacOS for development. It gave me a familiar Unix-like environment that didn't require me to screw around tr…

MacOS is generally good but doesn't have a fully supported package manager.

Personally I use Ubuntu Mate and couldn't be much happier. There is no real learning curve if you've used a traditional desktop.

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Try Pop_OS

try /r/unixporn. SFW despite the title. It's a community of people who spend time making (mostly) Linux desktops that look incredible

I remember when compiling a window manager written in haskell was exciting - I have a newborn here now and must prioritize ;)

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It's a P52s. The fact that it matters is part of the problem. All of the Apple laptops feel solid and well put together.

They have a price point where they can be made solid and well put together. Lenovo also sells cheap laptops of lower quality. Not sure why that's a problem. Or do you think people shouldn't be given cheaper options?

Don't use the same name for the quality product and the flimsy product.

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> an 8 core processor is awesome Yeah but there's no way this thing has the thermal or power capacity to actually run that 8-core CPU at its rated specs. This already happened with the 6-core in the previous gen, and it certainly doesn't look like Apple did anything to improve thermal capacity in this refresh. Hopefully they at least addressed the lack of VRM power delivery, but that doesn't seem likely. So you're ta…

> and it certainly doesn't look like Apple did anything to improve thermal capacity in this refresh Well, it says they did, but I guess you know better.

> Well, it says they did, but I guess you know better.

I don't see any comments from Apple talking about improving the cooling. What are you referring to? And what did they change? It still looks like the same tiny opening in the hinge, with no additional venting anywhere?

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I love Thinkpads but the trackpads, screen, and build quality leave a lot to be desired. Every Mac is the same level of assembly/quality but ThinkPads vary too much from one to another. The prices for the high-performance models are almost as high as Apple and the power bricks are actually bricks.

I have a t490 with 500 nit display. 100% ARGB / SRGB. I haven't seen any macbook display that's sharp. Btw I have a personal 2012 Retina Macbook pro & a 2018 Macbook pro that I use for work for frontend.

> 100% ARGB / SRGB.

The T490 does 100% Adobe RGB? I'm impressed. Seems like Lenovo has been really listening to people complain about the horrendous gamut ThinkPads have been afflicted with for some time.

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