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Re: Ferrari Luce

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Ferrari's sold through 2024 ~300,000 Cybertrucks sold (including to themselves) - ~70,000 So no, Tesla has not sold more cybertrashbins than Ferrari has total vehicle sales https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrari#Sales_history https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_Cybertruck#Sales

That was all Ferrari models in one year so comparable to Cybertruck annual sales.

Won't be true this year, and was only true last year if you include intracompany sales for Tesla.

Re: Ferrari Luce

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post #548

This will be a success. There is no need to sell an amount comparable to the Tesla Model S. It's Ferrari's first entry into the premium 5-seat EV sedan market. There are enough people who would pay any money to have an electric Ferrari. The fact that it's a rather everyday car—and not a supercar—makes it a very attractive option for rich people who need to show off. Design is also pretty good for the task. It doesn't…

> There are enough people who would pay any money to have an electric Ferrari. Are there? That's a pretty bold claim. I'm sure they think the same at Ferrari, but plenty of successful companies create products that flop miserably based on the wrong assumptions. I would personally think that the public interested in high-performance combustion-engine luxury cars is not interested in generic-looking electric cars even…

Loyal Ferrari customers will buy them so they can get allocations of future more desirable models

Some people will buy it as a flex because it’s expensive

The profit margin on these must be insane

They’ll sell enough to make it worth everyone’s while

The high end market is flush with cash and loves to spend

Re: Ferrari Luce

#945

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tesla has sold more Cybertrucks annually than Ferrari has sold all their cars added together.

Ferrari's sold through 2024 ~300,000 Cybertrucks sold (including to themselves) - ~70,000 So no, Tesla has not sold more cybertrashbins than Ferrari has total vehicle sales https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrari#Sales_history https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_Cybertruck#Sales

Ferrari average net profit/car

~€117k/car

Tesla average automotive gross profit/vehicle

~$7.6k/vehicle

Re: Ferrari Luce

#946
post #858

“Sound waves are captured from electro-mechanical vibration in the axles“ Finally! Electronic sound is fine if it is the actual sound of the car instead of some fake recording of a v8

Porsche did something similar for the 4 cylinder 718s. There is a microphone, processor and amplifier above the exhaust that feeds a speaker unit in the cabin to “enhance” the sound that is muffled due to the turbo.

It is good for aggressive driving but just creates a bad drone when highway cruising. Good have been implemented much better. Lots of people pull the fuse to disable it.

Re: Ferrari Luce

#947
post #379

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This is the one place where I can give Elon real credit. He made EVs popular partially by making them not look like shit.

He, however, forgot to upgrade the look over time. I blissfully ignore the cyberpunk era.

The recent refresh of the Model 3 and Y did a lot to upgrade the look.

Re: Ferrari Luce

#948
post #236

We don't want your electric car . We want your car, but electric . All people want is an electric Audi allroad. Instead, we get an e-tron. All people want is an electric V90 wagon. Instead we get a polestar. All people want is an electric Jeep Wrangler. Instead we get "Recon EV". The reason for this is that the incumbent manufacturers understand clearly that the electric versions would completely eclipse the ICE mode…

The reason for this is that the incumbent manufacturers understand clearly that the electric versions would completely eclipse the ICE models and their existing investments in design and tooling would rapidly diminish. The Ford F-150 Lightning is a clear indicator that the reverse is true: The market for “like my ICE vehicle, but with BEV tradeoffs instead of ICE ones” is today quite small, especially in the absence…

I think the F-150 is a bad example because trucks have a lot more use cases that BEVs have trouble with compared to regular vehicles.

Re: Ferrari Luce

#950
post #825

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When I saw the design, I thought "This looks like a Tesla". I'm sure it's an awesome car, and also a high quality premium experience. The question is whether it can command supercar prices - they are selling it for $650,000, and I don't quite understand the value proposition of a superior Tesla selling for that much. Now you can say, well what is the value proposition of the other ICE Ferraris selling for that much?…

Rolls knows their customers, as absurd as it may seem. The electrics hit the Royce brand first because it is the car “in which you are driven” and likely the reasons you state. Bentley, the car “you drive” has a different customer base and will be closer to the “normal” hypercar experience.

And the experience makes sense for what Rolls aims to do. Riding in a Spectre feels way more like riding in other Rolls' than it does an EV.
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