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Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by racl101 »

rdbl27 wrote: post #899
danielrhodes wrote: post #79

I think Tim Cook took Steve Job's vision and really took it to the moon. If you think about the last 15 years, Apple has really become the biggest possible version of itself without losing its values. Tech in general has changed quite a bit though. I don't know how Steve Jobs would have reacted to AI, and I don't know where tech itself would be if Jobs were still around. But I do think the next evolution is due and y…

Cook has done more or less the opposite of what Jobs did. Jobs was all about bold innovation, hugely risky bets on gamechanging products. Cook is a timid logistics optimizer, and he's good at that. We reliably get an iPhone with slightly more RAM, slightly faster CPU on schedule every year. No category changing products. Innovation has stopped -- after Jobs, there is only minor incremental improvement

Reminds me of the Godfather and how they called Tom Hagen not a "wartime consigliere". This was at a time when conflicts were starting up again and Vito had just been gunned down. Tim is Tom. Steve was Vito.

When Steve Jobs came back in 1997 Apple was against the ropes and they needed some radical change lest they sink.

But after they stabilized around 2010s then they didn't need radical shakeups but to maintain the good thing they got going. Tim was the man for that. And he did it well.

And yes I get that in this case one is a consigliere and one is the Don but there's similarity here.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by richwater »

rolisz wrote: post #819
SkyPuncher wrote: post #555

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I find this critique extremely odd. Sure, Apple isn't perfect, but literally every thing they do is top tier in the category they enter. I started writing out a list of Apple's products and it was simply [x device] in [y category] is either the best or consistently rated in the top of that category.

MacOS sucks. I can't wait for the day Asahi Linux is good enough so that I can bail on it. Safari, a web browser, randomly stops being able to connect to the Internet (other apps can).

MacOS sucks but everything else sucks harder. Linux is still nowhere close to being good enough for the average consumer in regards to simplicity regardless of how much gaslighting the community pushes.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by [deleted] »

castillar76 wrote: post #921
apatheticonion wrote: post #697

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My only hope, however unlikely, is that Apple will recognise that power users, engineers and gamers would really really appreciate running Linux on Macs and they write some drivers for it. There are literally no PC laptops with the quality or hardware offered by even the cheapest MacBook - the software, while fine for general consumers, creators, and some developer workloads, tragically holds back its potential somet…

I doubt we'll see it, but one thing I'd really like is for them to release cleaner drivers or specs for the hardware in Intel Macs . Now that they're committed to removing Intel support from the OS, it would be really nice not to consign all of that functional, high-performing hardware to the bin. At the moment, I have a 2018 Mac Mini with a 12-core i7 and 64GB of RAM that is more limited in OS choice and hardware su…

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Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by Kon5ole »

OJFord wrote: post #666
VirusNewbie wrote: post #557

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Airpods? They make more than most SaaS decacorns. How can you not credit that as a massive success that came out of nowhere?

Successful for the business no doubt, but they are an example of 'par with the rest of the industry' aren't they? Nothing market leading about them (except perhaps the price, heh) and not the first in the category, just one of a bunch of good options.

Less space than a nomad? ;-)

IMO the airpods vs the rest of the industry is kinda like the iphone vs blackberry.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by hbn »

4gotunameagain wrote: post #701
alsetmusic wrote: post #161

For Apple nerds that pay close attention to company, this is no surprise. Third-party dev Marco Arment wrote a blog post speaking to Ternus earlier this month[0]. Marco has enough standing within our world that it's actually a clever idea to appeal to Ternus on these terms. He'll probably be aware that it was written and the appeal is somewhat generic in its call to reverse course on some Cook-era policies. We're all…

Why would anyone pay close attention to a company ? It is not a tongue in cheek remark, I am genuinely curious

I'm curious how you ended up creating an account on Hacker News if you don't see why people would be interested in major news regarding the biggest computer maker on the planet.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by DarkNova6 »

pembrook wrote: post #822
DarkNova6 wrote: post #715

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> This is one of the more broadly normal HN-reaction threads to large public news event I've seen in a while. A lot of love for Apple, respect for the decision, and respectfully stated nuance. Surprising and good. In other words, nothing insightful or worth talking about. I don't want to read news for feelgood vibes.

> I don't want to read news for feelgood vibes. Yes, as algorithmic engagement has proven, most people want to read the news to get angry about stuff. But I don't like hanging around that. I'd rather talk about tech news with nerds (old HN) and not just talk about coastal filter-bubble US politics with big tech worker bees (new HN). US politics has definitely captured the crowd here lately. Half of the comment thread…

Sometimes the commenters actually have genuine insights that must reports/articles will never mention. Sadly, I'm quite a cynical person that expects everything to have a spin unless it comes from an authoritative source.

In general, I'd say it's about confirmation bias and having a fluffy statement that confirms preconceived notions is hardly interesting to me. If there is anything of substance that contradicts any narrative or general consensus than I find the signal in the noise highly valuable.

But I can't speak for the general case because I don't use any social media and find rage bate quite cumbersome.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by lutoma »

hobofan wrote: post #661
71bw wrote: post #654

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>And Apple Maps today is absolutely amazing. Perhaps that is the case in the US, but in Poland, I haven't had a single app guide me into the literal bushes as many times as Apple Maps does. The straw that broke the camel's back was when, I shit you not, the navigation aspect literally expected me to drive through a lake.

This may just be my bubble, but even among my iPhone-owning friends, I haven't seen a single person use Apple Maps in Europe, so I wouldn't be surprised if the efforts to improve the map data have been more focused on the US.

In Germany it's pretty decent, the only thing I still open Google Maps for is to occasionally check reviews or store opening hours.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by Lalabadie »

hobofan wrote: post #661
71bw wrote: post #654

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>And Apple Maps today is absolutely amazing. Perhaps that is the case in the US, but in Poland, I haven't had a single app guide me into the literal bushes as many times as Apple Maps does. The straw that broke the camel's back was when, I shit you not, the navigation aspect literally expected me to drive through a lake.

This may just be my bubble, but even among my iPhone-owning friends, I haven't seen a single person use Apple Maps in Europe, so I wouldn't be surprised if the efforts to improve the map data have been more focused on the US.

I want to use Apple Maps instead of Google's apps, I'm in Canada.

Apple have been promising bicycle support in Canada since iOS 14. Bike paths and itineraries still aren't there.

It's the same with public transit, which is unsynchronized or unavailable depending on the city.

Apple Maps will show business informations and schedules, but only pull information from Yelp, which no one here uses. The app will guide you to businesses that have closed or moved out, and will show you photos and menus that date 5+ years.

It's not an issue of software quality unfortunately, but one of negligence on the service side.

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