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Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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For Apple nerds that pay close attention to company, this is no surprise. Third-party dev Marco Arment wrote a blog post speaking to Ternus earlier this month[0].

Marco has enough standing within our world that it's actually a clever idea to appeal to Ternus on these terms. He'll probably be aware that it was written and the appeal is somewhat generic in its call to reverse course on some Cook-era policies.

We're all very hopeful but there's not enough information available on the outside to predict with any certainty how he'll lead.

0. https://marco.org/2026/04/01/letter-to-john-ternus

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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I tend to disagree to a point: their laptops have great internals but are terrible from a usage perspective — I like to imagine their system board in a Thinkpad X1 Carbon chassis with native Linux! But HW is at least improving (eg. they added anti-reflective screen option), and SW is very much not.

How do you feel about their trackpad? I think they’re the best on the market.

They're pretty good, but you can find other good trackpads too. The main thing about Apple is that their trackpads are consistently pretty good, while with other brands it can be hard to figure out what you'll be getting until you try it yourself.

There's also software component. It has improved by now, but early libinput was giving some good trackpads bad rep.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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I admire how Tim Cook participates in US politics. He is doing the most while giving the least. I would do the same in his position, he is making the best of a difficult situation, and it is his duty to protect his company and employees. Giving a golden statue of Trump has no effect on you and me, and a very large effect on Trump. He is gaining significant political capital while giving up nothing that matters (feel…

> Giving a golden statue of Trump has no effect on you and me, and a very large effect on Trump. No effect on you, really. You aren’t affected by gas prices or tariffs? They are bowing down and participating in Trump’s patronage schemes. Every powerful person who does this is complicit with all the horrible things done by the Trump administration. They are endorsing Trump and his ilk with their behavior if not their…

Trump is the president. People voted him into the Office. Tim Cook didn't give him the golden statue before he is in the Office.

Everyone in the United States is complicit to the horrible things done by the Trump administration by your logic. I partially agree, but I also think burning Apple to the ground will not be Tim Cook's legacy and he is in no place to go against the executive branch.

It is not about Trump, it is about the corrupted executive branch. Tim didn't do any crime against humanity in his act.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Things he effectively presided over: * Apple Silicon, the most far-reaching technical transformation in the company's history (probably a bigger deal than macOS itself) * Apple Pay * The Watch and Airpods product categories, both of which Apple now dominates. All while holding on to its position in phones and improving (drastically) its computers. It feels like a pretty successful term.

Tim was a great CEO. I'm just pointing out product velocity slowed. I'm far from the first person to say it, it's just a fact. In the five years before Cook we got first generation Apple TV, iPhone, iPad, and MacBook Air. Your list spans 14 years.

One could add the Vision Pro, MacBook Neo, Mac Studio, HomePods, and so on to the list as well.

The reality is everyone just wants another hit product like the iPhone, but its success was based on it being a personal convergence device. You can't really create a second carryable/wearable convergence device and expect it to be wildly successful at the level of the iPhone without it killing off the iPhone.

So far that revolutionary approach by third parties has not succeeded against the iPhone, and the evolutionary approach apple takes with the iPhone means there is no clear inflection point anywhere in the future where the phone form factor goes away.

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Apple’s software is the best in the non-free software world compared to Google's or Microsoft's, IMO. But that doesn't mean it can't be better.

Their legendary "goto fail" debacle as well as the ease with which ios has repeatedly been jailbroken would disagree. I think geohot once quipped: "My lawyer could write a better malloc."

Dare we not look to Android.

goto fail was relevant in 2014 - perhaps not the most useful point in 2026.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Apple’s software is the best in the non-free software world compared to Google's or Microsoft's, IMO. But that doesn't mean it can't be better.

Their legendary "goto fail" debacle as well as the ease with which ios has repeatedly been jailbroken would disagree. I think geohot once quipped: "My lawyer could write a better malloc."

12 year old coding bug

https://www.imperialviolet.org/2014/02/22/applebug.html

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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My personal hope for John Ternus is that he relaxes some of Apple's anti-competitive bullshit to the point where the company is willing to make iPads actually useful for anything other than 2D drawing apps. As someone who has been daily-driving an M1 iPad Pro for five years, the iPad is the most glaring hole in Apple's lineup in terms of usefulness. Yes, I get that the iPad is supposed to be a "casual computing devic…

I'd love the m5 ipad pro (with some more RAM please), and just use macos on it

I have almost no use for the keyboard that's attached to my macbook. I use an external one. On the plane it's in the way. The only use for the keyboard is when taking it with me somewhere which is not my regular spot. And even then a portable bottomcase (keyboard+touchpad) would be great.. Basically an iPad

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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I think it's interesting that the handoff will be complete on Sept 1. That would mean Ternus will helm his first iPhone launch that month. Auspicious timing. Curious the math they calculated when landing on this date. Certainly tees him up for an early win if the products are well-received.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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I don’t closely follow the news about Apple and now I’m wondering why they decided to go forward with this change at this moment. As the world undergoes increasing supply chain issues, wouldn’t it be in Apple’s best interest to keep Tim Cook as CEO for a while? Or is he the one who’s looking to transition to a less demanding position?

Tim must have wanted to enjoy 4/20 without worrying about company drug testing.

He already had the trail of his retirement mapped out, and picked the perfect moment to blaze it.
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