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Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by smcl »

phpisthebest wrote: post #924
smcl wrote: post #892

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This "5d chess" stuff is approaching the level of faith that qanon followers have - nothing is ever wrong, everything is always going according to The Plan, when it deviates it's because The Plan has changed and you weren't informed, Hillary was arrested and sent to gitmo but unfortunately she was cloned, etc, etc. Look, he's spitballing ideas and playing it a little fast and loose. It may pay off, it might not - it…

It is not 5d chess, nor it is making excuses for him. It is a matter of critical thinking and evidence based research I do not count reporting based on anonymous sources as evidence of anything, Elon never said, and no official at Twitter ever said the price as going to be $20, so I have no evidence to believe outside of Rumor from sources that have been showed to be negatively biased on the subject and widely inaccu…

> Elon never said, and no official at Twitter ever said the price as going to be $20

Except that he did. In the tweet he made just before he said it would be $8. If you discard the tweets where he said it would be $20 and then $8 - then yes your statement holds. But we shouldn't, because those are the tweets where he said those things.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by antifa »

CydeWeys wrote: post #528
mjfl wrote: post #441

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and now we have more of a paper trail to stop them

You really don't though. It's trivially easy to create new valid unique payment information with a free virtual credit card number and a fake name/address. This is a very hard problem to truly solve.

Are virtual cards actually useful for crimes? I assumed they were primarily for ending subscriptions that make canceling orders of magnitude harder than signing up.

Actual scammers I expect have stolen credit card databases to test.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by neweroldguy »

koonsolo wrote: post #884
thaumasiotes wrote: post #865

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I don't really see the relevance? We can rephrase your comment as "if people like your game, sometimes they follow your Twitter account". That's just an example of using Twitter to advertise your other content.

Marketing wise the difference is huge. Say you release a new game, and want to know which marketing channels to focus on. As it turns out, Twitter will not give you much new customers that haven't come into contact with your game before. I agree with you that once you have those followers, you can leverage that with other content. But building up your audience mainly needs to happen through other channels.

Thanks for clarifying, this is an insightful interpretation.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by bandyaboot »

IncRnd wrote: post #913
bandyaboot wrote: post #619

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He purchased the company because his lawyers finally convinced him he was going to be forced to and that it was a poor choice to continue damaging the asset he was going to be owning.

That's your belief. It is quite likely that the court actions were mean to pressure twitter. That isn't an uncommon tactic. The two facts we know are that Musk stated he would purchase twitter to make changes, and he has started to make changes after the purchase.

He was trying everything he could to get out of a horrendous deal. If you can’t see that, I don’t know what to tell you.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by philwelch »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #797
alphabetting wrote: post #779

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I think the point still stands. 6 of the top 10 on Youtube got their large followings being making content for Youtube. 0% of the top 50 on Twitter are primarily known for their tweets.

> 0% of the top 50 on Twitter are primarily known for their tweets. Why limit yourself to the top 50? 0% of all Twitter users are primarily known for their tweets. Tweets are, by design, unsuitable for publishing content. They're useful for advertising content you publish somewhere else.

> 0% of all Twitter users are primarily known for their tweets.

This is false.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by borroka »

HWR_14 wrote: post #881
themitigating wrote: post #847

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Stephen King would pay $8, Elon Musk would earn $8 x the number of users that paid.

Stephen King would not pay. He doesn't need Twitter. He can spend that time writing another book convert to a substack or something.

I don't need Twitter, since I rarely post on the social, I don't use it for work, and it kind of annoys me too, and if it disappeared I would forget about its existence in two weeks, like I forget about my favorite podcast three days after they started their 3-week summer vacation. I don't need to go to the gym, but I have been going for about 30 years. If they forced me to spend an extra $8 a month, maybe I would move to another gym where I pay less, but how ridiculous would my statement be, "I don't need the gym, bye"?

Stephen King doesn't need Twitter to publicize his work, and he doesn't even need to work, since he seems to be quite well off. But most celebrities -- "most" is vague, I know -- live to be the center of attention, to be heard, to be considered. And a few years ago the platform was Facebook, then Twitter, after Trump's election, became more and more the place to be if you want to participate in the "discourse." King needs Twitter now or another platform now or in the future because, apparently, he needs to be heard, to be part of the conversation, to have his old man criticisms heard. But now that platform is Twitter.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by TheRealDunkirk »

rasz wrote: post #904
thaumasiotes wrote: post #797

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> 0% of the top 50 on Twitter are primarily known for their tweets. Why limit yourself to the top 50? 0% of all Twitter users are primarily known for their tweets. Tweets are, by design, unsuitable for publishing content. They're useful for advertising content you publish somewhere else.

foone is

Yeah, the only analog bouncing around my brain are accounts like that one, and, say, SwiftOnSecurity. There are people who are really big within a particular niche, and become a "sun" within a solar system. I'm blocked from both of those accounts, but I don't know why. (It's odd, because I usually avoid strong comments of ANY kind). The net effect on this sort of behavior on traffic patterns at Twitter works out quite a bit differently than on YouTube. You probably wouldn't block people on YouTube for the same comment you see on Twitter, and when you do it on Twitter, you're hard-limiting your audience.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by philwelch »

arkades wrote: post #445
paxys wrote: post #322

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That's the core problem with this approach. Elon and others have the idea in their head that Twitter is a social graph where people come to interact with each other, and everyone is relatively equal. So every user paying $X/mo to solidify their place in the graph makes some conceptual sense. In reality Twitter is more akin to YouTube than Facebook. A tiny percentage of users are creators while the vast majority are c…

Stephen King’s tweet on that topic, to summarize: “ $20 a month to keep my blue check? Fuck that, they should pay me. If that gets instituted, I’m gone like Enron.” https://twitter.com/stephenking/status/1587042605627490304?s...

Honestly, Stephen King probably loses more brand equity than that just from what he posts on Twitter. It’s gotten to the point where I actively avoid following any writers or creative types on Twitter just to avoid my perception of their work being colored by how they conduct themselves on Twitter.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by aredox »

panick21_ wrote: post #692
sillysaurusx wrote: post #668

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Wait till it freezes in winter. Those doors are great, till they’re covered in a small layer of ice. The doors are an interesting example since they always seemed strictly worse than the traditional design, unlike the rest of the car.

I live in cold Switzerland and a family in my house with 3 little children has one of them. The car is always parked outside. They seem really happy with it and this was never mentioned as an issue.

"Cold" Switzerland? Hasn't been the case in years. Bielersee used to freeze over dozens of metres for weeks, it hasn't happened for at least five years if not height.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by filoleg »

threeseed wrote: post #860
MisterSandman wrote: post #808

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Justin Bieber literally got his start from YouTube. BTS and Black pink would also not be as popular as they are without YouTube. The original comment was a bit miseleading, but you have to admit that there is no equivalent to Pewdiepie on Twitter.

> BTS and Black pink They would still be popular though. YouTube hasn't even been that popular in South Korea until recently.

BTS was popular in SK way before they got big on YouTube. But their massive explosion of popularity in the west (and outside of SK in general) happened perfectly in sync with them getting big on YouTube.
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