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Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by peter422 »

oneeyedpigeon wrote: post #498
koonsolo wrote: post #415

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> In reality Twitter is more akin to YouTube than Facebook. There is a very big difference between Twitter and YouTube, and it's obvious once you know it. Look at the most popular people on twitter: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most-followed_Twitte... All celebrities outside of twitter. Then look at YouTube: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most-subscribed_YouT... Almost all made famous by YouTube.…

If you're famous, you'll almost certainly have a twitter account, although there are obviously exceptions. The same just doesn't seem to go for YouTube. Creating content on YT is a lot more time-consuming than creating it on Twitter, of course.

This is why YouTube is a platform with value and Twitter isn't.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by boole1854 »

sliken wrote: post #459

Seems pretty weird to me. I read an article that the top 5% of users are responsible for 90% of tweets and most of the profit. Said 5% have been leaving the platform for the last few months. Now there's a $8/Month incentive for the top users to leave ... seems backwards. They should be paying the top users to stay so the 95% has something to read. Imagine if youtube creators had to pay instead of be paid.

In the thread linked to by this post, Musk says that they will pay part of the monthly fee to content creators on Twitter. If true, in-demand creators will likely earn far more than they pay.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by smcl »

koonsolo wrote: post #496
causality0 wrote: post #428

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Yeah, if you got famous exclusively on Twitter it's because you're a demagogue, not a content creator.

Can you name the MrBeast or PewDiePie of twitter?

Yes his name is @dril and he is more powerful than 100 of your Misters Beast or Pewdies Pie

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by seanp2k2 »

tommica wrote: post #315
dan-robertson wrote: post #285

The dynamics on Twitter are quite weird. There’s a small number of users with potentially lots of followers for whom Twitter is an important part of their work or life. If you’re a journalist, being on Twitter is basically part of your job so maybe you should have to pay a bit more just like the customer of some business software ($100 pa seems pretty cheap there). Indeed maybe media publications should be paying for…

I guess I am an outlier in this, but I don't think I have a single "famous" person that I follow - maybe some bigger figures in a niche area, but the people that have the blue mark are not the draw for me. But when I do search for them, it is convenient to see the blue mark to figure out what might be the account I am looking for.

>the blue mark to figure out what might be the account I am looking for

If this is part of what blue checks were designed to solve, they're solving the wrong problem. Fix search and content quality / spam instead.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by prmoustache »

oneeyedpigeon wrote: post #514
memish wrote: post #508

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The idea that someone who is addicted to Twitter and worth $500M would leave because they lose their special Blue Check over $20 is hilarious. He's just butt hurt because the VIP room and symbol is being opened to the proles. Now any schlub with $8 can have the once exclusive symbol.

Stephen King is addicted to Twitter? He's posted an average of 2-3 tweets per day — I wouldn't call that addicted.

That is quite a lot.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by kritiko »

koonsolo wrote: post #421
resoluteteeth wrote: post #363

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The "content" here is just tweets. It may not be "content" in the way you are imagining, but it's still true that almost all twitter users are using the site to view tweets from a small number of people (call them content creators or influencers if you like) with large numbers of followers.

Sure, but that small number of people are already famous outside of twitter. YouTube and TikTok creates new celebrities, twitter doesn't.

Red Scare and Chapo Trap House are niche media brands, but their hosts are new celebrities who got famous primarily through Twitter.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by CydeWeys »

mjfl wrote: post #441
sumeno wrote: post #427

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If the barrier to a checkmark is $8 then all the scammers are going to have checkmarks too

and now we have more of a paper trail to stop them

You really don't though. It's trivially easy to create new valid unique payment information with a free virtual credit card number and a fake name/address. This is a very hard problem to truly solve.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by memish »

sangnoir wrote: post #520
memish wrote: post #508

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The idea that someone who is addicted to Twitter and worth $500M would leave because they lose their special Blue Check over $20 is hilarious. He's just butt hurt because the VIP room and symbol is being opened to the proles. Now any schlub with $8 can have the once exclusive symbol.

And yet Musk was in his replies, haggling.

He wasn't haggling. He was mocking the blue check status symbol in King's face and audience.

$8 makes it cheaper than a Netflix subscription for something that previously exclusive and had no dollar value attached to it. It was literally unbuyable.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by tptacek »

memish wrote: post #508
arkades wrote: post #445

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Stephen King’s tweet on that topic, to summarize: “ $20 a month to keep my blue check? Fuck that, they should pay me. If that gets instituted, I’m gone like Enron.” https://twitter.com/stephenking/status/1587042605627490304?s...

The idea that someone who is addicted to Twitter and worth $500M would leave because they lose their special Blue Check over $20 is hilarious. He's just butt hurt because the VIP room and symbol is being opened to the proles. Now any schlub with $8 can have the once exclusive symbol.

Anywhere Stephen King writes, he'll have an audience. That's what's so funny about this particular example. There are indeed Twitter celebrities who depend on Twitter for their audience, but King isn't one of them: he's pumping more credibility into Twitter than he's extracting from it, and the platform (and all the Twitter celebrity remora attached to it) depend on people like him to keep doing it.

He's right: Twitter should be paying him. That's not true of all blue-checks, but it's true of many of the most popular of them.

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