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Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Post by Ghjklov »

deanCommie wrote: post #939
koolba wrote: post #761

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> Threatening violence IN RESPONSE to violence is a far cry from INSTIGATING violence against peace. So by that logic it was wrong for Twitter to sensor the President’s tweet regarding using force to stop vandals destroying monuments.

Why are conservatives so hell bent on equating violence against inanimate objects (property, monuments) with violence against other humans? THEY ARE NOT THE SAME THING.

Many people depend on their businesses to provide for their livelihoods. They may be put on the streets if their business is burnt down during a riot. Will you be there to help them pay to rebuild or to help them rehome themselves?

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Post by [deleted] »

kabacha wrote: post #923
novia wrote: post #895

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> Someone's interpretation of their own sexuality or gender affects no one but themselves. This section was already covered by another user, but I'd like to provide an example too: So, you fall in love with someone, and marry them. You have children with them and you have a nice family. Everything is going great until one day ... they confess to you that they have always felt like they were the opposite gender. This…

I'll go ahead and say it's probably such an extremely rare occurrence that I highly doubt some sort of forum is required here. Why an exclusive community about this subject necessary? This topic is not prohibited on /r/offmychest or any other "venting" subreddit. To me it seems like community of common hate and that's just awfully unnecessary. I'm pretty certain posts of "my spouse turned out trans an left me" would…

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Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Post by three_seagrass »

Andrew_nenakhov wrote: post #889
three_seagrass wrote: post #722

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e-mail is a communication standard, not a network/system.

You are trying to say it doesn't fit the 'anything decentralised' criteria?

The email standard is the same as only accepting letters mailed using letterhead formatted in Arial font.

When discussing a decentralized version of reddit, it's not the same thing. Protocols are not the same as networks/systems.

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Post by Andrew_nenakhov »

three_seagrass wrote: post #943
Andrew_nenakhov wrote: post #889

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You are trying to say it doesn't fit the 'anything decentralised' criteria?

The email standard is the same as only accepting letters mailed using letterhead formatted in Arial font. When discussing a decentralized version of reddit, it's not the same thing. Protocols are not the same as networks/systems.

That's nonsense. Anything decentralised uses a certain set of rules how independent entities interact with each other. Such rules form a protocol. For example, XMPP is one such protocol. One can build reddit-like or Facebook-like service using xmpp, which will work across multiple independent servers. (In fact, that's what we are going to do, unless we run out of funds first)

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Post by InternetUser »

duxup wrote: post #86
ve55 wrote: post #7

Worth taking note that in today's climate, you really cannot win when you are in a position to moderate important things that a lot of people use. There is constantly tremendous pressure on you to perform opposing actions, and even making no decision at all will cause you significant mental stress and harassment, regardles of what the issue is. You have to pick who you want to cave to, and to what extent, and no matt…

Would something decentralized help? I don't think people want that. The_Donald involved a lot of spreading their message / fake news sites / spamming across other subs and etc. Do people want to be on a platform where other folks on the same platform are targeting their community with dishonest and often bigoted content? I'm also not sure how much The_Donald was as a community. The sheer volume of users at its height…

Well, you must be thrilled! Now that Trump supporters have all migrated over to this tiny little obscure island where they can just spam EACH OTHER, and share conspiracy theories with EACH OTHER, and post fake news links for EACH OTHER! Joe Biden is surely gonna win AT LEAST 28 states now that all those pesky Trump supporters have been isolated away from smart normal good people like you and me!

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Post by InternetUser »

dmoy wrote: post #725
basch wrote: post #683

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The iron fist is a double edged sword in some senses. Although reddit acted as a free speech haven for a long time, it was only overall, and not ever in major specific communities. True free speech is valued because it fosters debate, and allows bad speech to be rebutted by more speech. A marketplace of ideas, and maybe more importantly, the counterspeech doctrine, are incredibly important principals in justifying th…

> True free speech is valued because it fosters debate, and allows bad speech to be rebutted by more speech Sure, but in practice this is what true free speech on reddit for a large sub looks like before moderation * 3 knee jerk replies * 10 pieces of spam asking you to buy their bit/altcoin or click on their affiliate links * 5 people who are hurling vile insults at you for whatever reason * 8 more people who are hu…

Lol... If that was even remotely accurate, Reddit would've been abandoned very quickly. You really have no idea what you're talking about at all, AT ALL.

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Post by InternetUser »

dmoy wrote: post #650
ngold wrote: post #613

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Gotta respect the iron fist of /r/askhistorians. Probably the best sub on reddit.

Yea wow, I don't moderate r/askhistorians but rather a different sub, and we sometimes pride ourselves on keeping this relatively clean. But then I stumble across r/askhistorians again and remember that no, no we don't have things under control by comparison. We can barely keep a lid on the vitriol and toxicity, and some of the more blatantly false/scammy advice. r/askhistorians is a whole 'nother level. Sometimes I…

Yeah, you're right. HN should allow participation only from people with at least 2 years of education in a Computer Science program.

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Post by InternetUser »

bitexploder wrote: post #234
ryankemper wrote: post #207

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> I'm also not sure how much The_Donald was as a community. It was very clearly a real community, as you can see evidence from the fact that they migrated to thedonald.win when Reddit made it clear that they wouldn't be treated fairly. > So you'd be in your other community and one day they all show up and down votes and the vitriol begins... it was no mystery that this happened, it was spoken of openly in The_Donald…

Well, if you had any doubt about the character of TD and what it has become at its new home, just cruise around it. It’s full of conspiracy theories, misogyny, racism, and outright calls to violence. It is a common sentiment there that the only good Democrat is a dead one. These “edgy” takes receive many upvotes.

> It is a common sentiment there that the only good Democrat is a dead one.

Yeah really? Go retrieve 2 examples for me, please, because I can't find any and I think you're completely full of shit.

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Post by InternetUser »

dandersh wrote: post #330
mantas wrote: post #280

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How many left-leaning subreddits were banned? There're several toxic commie subs with a lot of hatred thrown around, but nobody seems to care. r/politics was default for ages and it wasn't exactly a welcoming place.

ChapoTrapHouse, which was the largest left wing sub. Edit (since I can't reply): r/politics is American liberalism, which is centrist.

/r/Politics is centrism? Wow. If that's centrism, that I'll continue working to ensure a #Trump2020Landslide! These arrows will move even further to the right:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9b/Presiden...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_presidentia...

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Post by InternetUser »

gpu_explorer wrote: post #688
ryankemper wrote: post #207

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> I'm also not sure how much The_Donald was as a community. It was very clearly a real community, as you can see evidence from the fact that they migrated to thedonald.win when Reddit made it clear that they wouldn't be treated fairly. > So you'd be in your other community and one day they all show up and down votes and the vitriol begins... it was no mystery that this happened, it was spoken of openly in The_Donald…

Sorry for this bad English of mine, but the_donald room was a sewer and it is very well documented by now. Society does not have to allow the voices of racism or racists, hating of women, or other antisocial behavior. Already racists do not go jail, women hating does not go to jail, hating gays does not go to jail, but there is no other obligation for tolerating it.

You're imagining some reality and it's very strange. Take a look here and you won't see any of the delusional things you're describing:

https://thedonald.win/

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