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Re: It's hard to justify Tahoe icons

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Post by freehorse »

nkrisc wrote: post #871
freehorse wrote: post #486

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It is a personal blog. I would not apply the same kind of criticism to a personal blog, even though it does sound ironic. Moreover, turning off JS was an easy solution. There is no solution right now for apple's UI mess (except not updating).

Personal blog or no, I think the UX and usability critiques are equally valid. Whether or not the author cares will certainly be influenced by the fact it’s just a personal blog. I wouldn’t expect them to change anything for that reason alone, but the criticism stands nonetheless.

An author of a personal blog does not have to care about judgements of usability vs what they find appealing. A personal blog is a place of self-expression firstmost, not a public service nor a product that targets users. When usability is not the primary goal, you may take unconventional design decisions. If the author likes snowflakes all over the canvas, snowflakes it is. They put an easy way to disable them, I did it in <1 second through disabling JS before I even noticed there was a switch, that's all. Similarly, I would not care about the design choices of apple if I could just disable them even if it took me 5 minutes to do so.

Re: It's hard to justify Tahoe icons

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Post by prmoustache »

vel0city wrote: post #890
prmoustache wrote: post #841

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Do they sell many Apple Watches? Maybe it is an euro thing but I only very rarely see people wearing one. I would see 9 garmins for 1 Apple Watch for instance and many more people wearing cheap casios or no watch at all.

I see mostly Apple watches, a few Samsungs, a small smattering of Pixel watches, and then rarely other brands like Garmin and what not around me.

That's probably regional then. In my area most people using watches nowadays are usually into sports.

I must admit I don't understand the point of a smart watch when most people have their smartphone in their hand a significant amount of time a day and said smartphones screen sizes have been increasing over the year because people want to be able to doom scroll at pictures and videos and interact with whatsapp all day. I don't know how you can do that from a tiny screen on a watch.

Those like me who don't subscribe to that way of living don't want distractions and notification so they use regular watches and would see as a regression a device that needs to be charged every few days.

Some people said payments but I see peolle paying with their smartphone all the time since they have it at hands or in a pocket very close anytime having it in a watch doesn't look like a sigmificant improvement. I'd be curious to see a chart of smartwatch adoption by country.

Re: It's hard to justify Tahoe icons

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Post by ctippett »

strbean wrote: post #859
ctippett wrote: post #561

500+ comments and no one's mentioned the jack of all trades "share" button? I would really love to see the internal metrics around how many users press share because they're actually sharing something versus wanting to use any one of the myriad of other functions it hides. Exhibit A: In Safari I had to "share" this page to use the "Find on Page" feature to search whether anyone had mentioned the share button yet. Bon…

Is this specific to mobile? Feels like this could be a riff on Android's 'Share' functionality, which is actually the user-friendly name for "send an Intent". And that means that any inter-app handling ends up stuffed into a "Share" menu that pretends only social media apps exist. So you do "Share -> Edit with Photoshop" or similar.

Sounds like Android's share button is exactly as ambiguous as the one on macOS/iOS... A dumping ground for all the misfit utilities and functions that couldn't find a home anywhere else on the system.

Re: It's hard to justify Tahoe icons

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Post by jpfromlondon »

dwd wrote: post #853
solfox wrote: post #476

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100% this. I recall watching their launch video about Liquid Glass. It was filled with ego-driven "we're changing the world here" nonsense. They were designing in a bubble and wanted to do something different so they could justify the work. It was never about the user.

A design system I am required to use made a recent "major" update announcement: "Styles have been converted to variables. Styles are out and Figma variables are in". Where what we really needed was a stable release version (now a year late from the original promised date) so we can build out UI components for the content editors to use that don't require constant design tweaks. You know the designers are: a) Just fuc…

There is a product I have to use that updated its ui design some years ago, only the functionality is partially implemented and the new design has some functional elements that weren't present in the old configuration.

This has been solved with a button that switches the layout between the two designs, when I'm making changes it is sometimes necessary to flip back and forth between the two mid-change.

Re: It's hard to justify Tahoe icons

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Post by LoganDark »

wlesieutre wrote: post #478
LoganDark wrote: post #442

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> In the early iOS beta, the new tab button was at the top of Safari, as far away from your thumbs as it could be. Can't you swipe past the end on the tab bar (along the bottom by default) to create a new tab?

Only when you're currently in the rightmost tab, but yes

Yes, I meant past the end of all tabs

Re: It's hard to justify Tahoe icons

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Post by walthamstow »

hombre_fatal wrote: post #837
galenko wrote: post #735

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At this point why even use spotlight? Raycast or a list of other maybe more minimalistic replacements would work great.

Can even vibe code your own like I did. Claude Code wrote a single file AppKit program that uses 30mb memory (avoid SwiftUI). Extended it with dictionary, quick translations, and more. Since I use it every day, I keep polishing it without writing code.

This sounds great. Anything on GitHub I can take inspo from?

Re: It's hard to justify Tahoe icons

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Post by Natfan »

robinhood wrote: post #631
juancn wrote: post #150

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Seriously? UX in Linux is awful, there's no single desktop metaphor. You have hundreds of distros each with their quirks. There is no "Linux" other than the kernel. There's a lot more consistency in the Apple ecosystem. Don't get me started on the other crap with Linux distros: power management doesn't work, audio barely works, heck even though both Linux and MacOS use CUPS for printing, in MacOS it works way better.

It looks like an old comment from 5 years ago. I bet you haven't tried Linux lately. Yes there are many flavors of this OS, and that's alright. Everyone will find what it needs. As for the other crap that doesn't work: again, install and use any popular distro. You'll see for yourself. Most recent hardware is perfectly supported and things just work™.

if you have routing issues with your primary dns server, you will not be able to perform a clean shutdown (or run anything with sudo, apparently)

Re: It's hard to justify Tahoe icons

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Post by reactordev »

wpm wrote: post #904
reactordev wrote: post #253

Apple design has a designer problem. For far too long they worshiped the Ives of design, distilled it until there was no flavor left, and then lost their Oracle. Ever since, they have produced sub-par UX/UI experiences. They don't follow their own guiding principals, and they let shareholders and executives tell them what they should do. They figured they mastered remote work before anyone else and rested on their la…

The issue is that on Linux, unless you are really careful and fastidious in lowering your expectations, there is no desktop environment that comes close to the experience on macOS (despite its now numerous flaws and horrible regressions).

I disagree entirely when we have ravynos. MacOS isn’t a great experience, it’s a walled garden.

Re: It's hard to justify Tahoe icons

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Post by jaffa2 »

quietsegfault wrote: post #97

I like seeing the icons. It helps me pick the right thing without reading. Seems easier for me.

The irony is that the examples with 'all the icons' require more reading, since it's now impossible to distinguish the 'important' items, and in a lot of cases the icons are the same or wrong, requiring reading to determine what the icon means.
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