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Re: Linda Yaccarino is leaving X

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Post by driverdan »

satvikpendem wrote: post #921
CydeWeys wrote: post #867

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Ironically, most of his stories were blowing smoke. He wasn't actually nearly as successful at any of that as he was at making up stories and convincing everyone how successful he had been at it. When dealing with a con artist, rule number one is believe nothing they say, certainly not about what they've done!

What's the source on the making up stories part?

There's a huge section about it on Wikipedia and multiple books written about it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Abagnale#Veracity_of_cla...

Re: Linda Yaccarino is leaving X

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Post by lcnPylGDnU4H9OF »

throwaway37153 wrote: post #698
fake-name wrote: post #684

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> if he believes the terrible things he's posting or is just ironically posting them. The thing is, as I get older, I realize more and more that this is a distinction without a difference. If you "ironically" stab someone, does it matter what your motivation? The same is true for edgelord stuff. Whether you believe it internally is irrelevant, the active act of the posting is the only part that matters. If you post f…

> Whether you believe it internally is irrelevant, the active act of the posting is the only part that matters. > If you post fascist content to be "edgy", you're a fascist. Is Trump a constitutionalist because he claims to love the constitution? Is Kim Jong Un a "democratic republican"?

For this, English speakers have the phrase "actions speak louder than words". They do things that affect a large number of people and it's reasonable to say those things are more important than the words that come out of their mouth because the guy who punches you in the face 5 times and says sorry each time probably doesn't really mean it. I don't think you're convincing anyone that words aren't important just because liars lie.

Re: Linda Yaccarino is leaving X

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Post by freejazz »

olalonde wrote: post #349
feoren wrote: post #289

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Yes, corruption pays. Although if "doing remarkably well" means being addicted to ketamine, having many exes and children who refuse to speak with you, tanking multiple businesses to the point that your products get sabotaged just for being associated with you, getting booed off stages, licking the boots of fascists in the hope they'll let you call them "daddy", paying people to play online games for you to impress n…

You have a distorted view or reality. Elon seems pretty happy to me and is undeniably successful in business - arguably the most successful entrepreneur of our time. I don't know much about his personal life but I suspect that him having babies with multiple women is due to personal choices rather than a sign of misfortune. He certainly doesn't seem "off the rails" to me. That said, I can understand that his lifestyl…

> due to personal choices rather than a sign of misfortune

What would be the difference, exactly?

Re: Linda Yaccarino is leaving X

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Post by driverdan »

throwaway37153 wrote: post #697
UncleSlacky wrote: post #356

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> everyone can speak as long as it doesn't break the law I have one word for you: "cisgender". https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/x-cisgender-slur-cis-elon...

> “You may not directly attack other people on the basis of race, ethnicity, national origin, caste, sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, religious affiliation, age, disability, or serious disease,” How does this make it different than other website's policies in terms of free speech?

cis is not a slur or attack. The only people who believe this are the transphobes.

Re: Linda Yaccarino is leaving X

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Post by satvikpendem »

driverdan wrote: post #931
satvikpendem wrote: post #921

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What's the source on the making up stories part?

There's a huge section about it on Wikipedia and multiple books written about it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Abagnale#Veracity_of_cla...

Ah, thought we were talking about Nikita Bier still, my bad.

Re: Linda Yaccarino is leaving X

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Post by petersellers »

dinkumthinkum wrote: post #891
petersellers wrote: post #385

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> Twitter/X is the reason DJT became President. I really don't think so, at least not in isolation. It probably contributed a small part but the right wing media machine is multi-faceted. There were a lot of podcasters (i.e. Joe Rogan), comedians and youtubers all publicly in support of a second DJT presidency and I think that had a much bigger factor overall than Twitter.

So, you really think there are no issues that anyone voted on? It's just that the left has no money and no audience? People like Soros and Oprah are just so unbelievably poor that they are no match? Basically, if it were not for Joe Rogan, who has a large audience but hardly captures half of the country, and other comedians, people would have been sublimely enamored with the intellectual tour de force that is "I'm a…

There's a lot of assumptions being made in this comment and none of them are correct.

Re: Linda Yaccarino is leaving X

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Post by engineer_22 »

jhp123 wrote: post #929
irusensei wrote: post #882

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> I thought more people would see a guy doing ... that salute I don't think that gesture was a nazi salute and was grossly taken out of context by everyone who hates the guy. I don't like Elon Musk either but stressing over something like that exacerbates the appearance that the accuser has a biased opinion. It also made the media who covered this for weeks desperate and very shallow.

I watched the video with surrounding context and it looked like a Nazi salute. Did he ever deny it was a Nazi salute?

yes

Re: Linda Yaccarino is leaving X

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Post by freejazz »

Dwolb wrote: post #862
Aurornis wrote: post #847

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I’m kind of fascinated by Nikita’s popularity. Normally if you told a tech community like Hacker News that someone marketed viral phone apps targeting teenagers, engineered app engagement mechanics targeting kids, and openly used every growth hacking trick in the book to manipulate App Store charts, it would seem like a checklist of things people get angry about here. Yet because he’s Twitter-famous and seems like a…

His work may be unsavory, but he's good at his craft. Frank Abagnale committed financial crimes and had a wildly popular movie made from his story.

Yeah, and? The netflix show about Dahmer was popular too... So what?

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Post by davidw »

jhp123 wrote: post #929
irusensei wrote: post #882

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> I thought more people would see a guy doing ... that salute I don't think that gesture was a nazi salute and was grossly taken out of context by everyone who hates the guy. I don't like Elon Musk either but stressing over something like that exacerbates the appearance that the accuser has a biased opinion. It also made the media who covered this for weeks desperate and very shallow.

I watched the video with surrounding context and it looked like a Nazi salute. Did he ever deny it was a Nazi salute?

It's not just the salute, either, which was pretty clearly a Nazi salute that he did twice. It was support for the white Afrikaaners and the AfD in Germany and ripping the aid away from children in Africa, killing them, and on and on.

Re: Linda Yaccarino is leaving X

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Post by tonymet »

aorloff wrote: post #522
tonymet wrote: post #335

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Can you drill into "everyone is here"? Prior to twitterfiles, Twitter felt overly corporate . I agree it's pivoted into another community. A lot of the mainstream and left leaning contributors have been downranked or moved to other platforms. But Twitter hasn't felt like raw, egalitarian conversation since 2009

> Prior to twitterfiles, Twitter felt overly corporate Your take on a highly selective propagandized "expose" done internally by a corporation raider who just raided the corp that he is exposing, is to say that before oligarch took over things felt a little "corporate" ?

Social media is obviously censored and editorialized. Twitter files was just a turning point – I’m not saying it was a liberation.

Yes it’s been corporate for a long time. Now it has a different sort of editorialization – hard to describe it. Yeah maybe influenced by a cabal of techno-libertarian VCs like Musk & Theil – hopefully that will be better revealed in a follow up expose

It was certainly corporate beforehand, though. Maybe you preferred that version if it– that’s fine. (Edit: grammar)

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