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Re: Linda Yaccarino is leaving X

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Post by watwut »

CivBase wrote: post #507
zero_shift wrote: post #459

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I cannot see how it was a success. 1. He overpaid by tens of billions. That is a phenomenal amount of money to lose on an unforced error. 2. Enough users, who produce enough content, have left to make X increasingly a forum for porn bots, scam accounts and political activists. It's losing its appeal as the place "where the news happens" and is instead becoming more niche. 3. The firings did not go well. X has struggl…

> It makes X an increasingly niche website. I did not use Twitter. I do not use X. I'm even less inclined to become a user after the Musk takeover. I don't even know anyone who is active on X. However, I still constantly get linked to tweets and see screenshots of tweets (or whatever they're called now). And I never see anything from competing platforms. X may be failing by many metrics, but in terms of popularity it…

I domt see screenshots of tweeta anymore tho. That one defintely stopped in places where I go.

Re: Linda Yaccarino is leaving X

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Post by 71bw »

BeetleB wrote: post #416
ahmeneeroe-v2 wrote: post #355

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>A lot of the users who X need to stay on the platform, journalists and politicians, are still there Twitter/X is the reason DJT became President. It happened accidentally (ie against the wishes of Twitter management) in 2016, they successfully suppressed him in 2020, and then Elon gave MAGA that platform in 2024, leading to DJT's successful election. As long as X is seen a kingmaker, someone will find it profitable…

This is far more nuanced (and disputed) than you make it out to be. > It happened accidentally (ie against the wishes of Twitter management) in 2016 I think the whole Cambridge Analytica fiasco played a bigger role, and I don't think they utilize Twitter. On top of that, frankly, TV and his behavior at rallies/debated helped him a lot more than Twitter did in 2016. I don't know a single MAGA supporter who was even on…

>and I don't think they utilize Twitter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8Y-P0v2Hh0

Re: Linda Yaccarino is leaving X

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Post by creatonez »

rwmj wrote: post #82
eviks wrote: post #68

> I’m immensely grateful to him for entrusting me But he didn't? She wasn't even in the loop for many of the consequential decisions

Rule #0 is you don't disparage the company on the way out. She may even have a contractual obligation not to.

So Rule #0 is be silent about the absolute shitshow you are running away from, even when that shitshow is about to ruin many more lives? I think that reflects more poorly on someone than a break in pro-corporate decorum.

Re: Linda Yaccarino is leaving X

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Post by 4gotunameagain »

alpha_squared wrote: post #66
Hoasi wrote: post #50

X has been nothing short of an exercise in brand destruction. However, despite all the drama, it still stands, it still exists, and it remains relevant.

Which really says a lot about how hard it is to leave platforms. The network effect is hard to overcome.

Which reinforces the concept of a digital fiefdom; the owners of said platforms have this immense power only because they were the first to implement their ideas during the internet boom.

And now we're stuck with Zuckerberg, Musk and Bezos. Out of all people, the last ones I would choose to have unelected power. Okay maybe the last one would be Joe Rogan.

Re: Linda Yaccarino is leaving X

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Post by giingyui »

davidw wrote: post #638
makeitdouble wrote: post #501

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Most people were betting on X going under in some way or another within a year. From that POV, it's survival in itself can be seen a success for Musk. I'm genuinely surprised at the amount of people that stuck to it.

> I'm genuinely surprised at the amount of people that stuck to it. I thought more people would see a guy doing ... that salute, or things like the antisemitism in Grok in the past few days and say "no", but a huge number of people seem to be able to rationalize things away. I'm with Wil Wheaton https://bsky.app/profile/wilwheaton.net/post/3ltkjyzjb4k2p

I profoundly dislike the politics of most “leaders” for lack of a better word in the world of tech, but here I am typing these words in an iPhone. Refusing to use something because of who created it or who benefits from it is a bit too much I think, to the point of being unworkable depending on the case.

In other words as much as I’d like to vote with my wallet that is not always practical. And that extends to everything, not only tech.

Re: Linda Yaccarino is leaving X

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Post by azangru »

mihaic wrote: post #690

Tangential, I still find it absurd people accept calling it X instead of Twitter. While I'd generally agree that most companies can change their name, encroaching on a basic letter should be off limits, like naming your company "The" or "God". Still sticking with Twitter until a reasonable name is found, which by Musk is never.

> While I'd generally agree that most companies can change their name, encroaching on a basic letter should be off limits

To me it's the other way around. If the platform had been named X from the start, then a language would have developed around it, including what its messages are called, or what verb is used to refer to posting a message. We, the public, wouldn't have known any better. With Twitter, we do know better — better name, better nouns, better verbs (even a better logo; but that's by the by). Bosses can rename their products as much as they like; it's just surprising to me that we as a public so obligingly give up this tiny bit of our language.

> like naming your company "The" or "God".

Consider truth social :-) I am amazed people agree to call the messages there 'truths', and reposts, 'retruths'. So embarrassing.

Re: Linda Yaccarino is leaving X

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Post by throwaway37153 »

UncleSlacky wrote: post #356
sergiotapia wrote: post #279

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X saved free speech online. Without Musk acquiring it, we would have continued to slip into this franken-Resetera level of discourse. Thank God! X is the platform where everyone can speak as long as it doesn't break the law. That's fantastic. If you don't like a particular subject, you can just move on. That's what the internet was in the 2000s!

> everyone can speak as long as it doesn't break the law I have one word for you: "cisgender". https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/x-cisgender-slur-cis-elon...

> “You may not directly attack other people on the basis of race, ethnicity, national origin, caste, sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, religious affiliation, age, disability, or serious disease,”

How does this make it different than other website's policies in terms of free speech?

Re: Linda Yaccarino is leaving X

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Post by throwaway37153 »

fake-name wrote: post #684
danpalmer wrote: post #558

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Reading his timeline is somewhat rage-inducing. He's just another edgelord who can't decide if he believes the terrible things he's posting or is just ironically posting them. It's all just attention seeking, there's no value in the posts, no product insight, no teaching like I see from true industry leaders.

> if he believes the terrible things he's posting or is just ironically posting them. The thing is, as I get older, I realize more and more that this is a distinction without a difference. If you "ironically" stab someone, does it matter what your motivation? The same is true for edgelord stuff. Whether you believe it internally is irrelevant, the active act of the posting is the only part that matters. If you post f…

> Whether you believe it internally is irrelevant, the active act of the posting is the only part that matters.

> If you post fascist content to be "edgy", you're a fascist.

Is Trump a constitutionalist because he claims to love the constitution? Is Kim Jong Un a "democratic republican"?

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