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U.S. government will decide who gets to use GPT-5.6

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Re: U.S. government will decide who gets to use GPT-5.6

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Post by jefftk »

someguyornotidk wrote: post #917

I asked this question in another thread [1] but I'll ask it in a different way here: If the US continues to limit advanced AI to it's own domestic companies, US companies will have a large unfair advantage over foreign competitors who will no longer able to compete. Wouldn't it then make sense for governments around the world to start banning or tariffing US products and services to protect their industries? 1: https…

Limiting exports of AI services to all foreigners is probably allowed under GATS, since there's no favoring one county over another. But even then there's a national security exemption, which fits reasonably well with US arguments here.

If a country thought the AI export restrictions were inconsistent with treaty the remedy is challenging them, not unilaterally imposing their own tariffs. But even if they got a favorable panel decision the US would speak, and the Appellate Body is non-functional because the US stopped consenting to the addition of new members and all the terms expired. Which means anything that gets appealed is frozen indefinitely waiting for the AB to reach a quorum that won't come until the US changes is mind (and Biden didn't reverse Trump's decision here).

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Post by ribice »

tedsanders wrote: post #174
type4 wrote: post #131

Great, so when do we lowly code-serfs get access to it?

Unfortunately we're not in a position where we can promise an exact date, but we expect it to take weeks (not days or months). It's the best coding model we've ever trained and we're bummed we can't release it to everyone yet. When we do launch, we'll share a lot more evals and testimonials and demos that help show what it's good/bad at. Personally hoping that both GPT-5.6 Sol and Fable 5 get broadly released soon so…

> It's the best coding model we've ever trained

I assume for more technical folks this is not needed, as it's just a marketing term. There's no need to use such words because it's obvious, none worked for months to release a worse model/phone/laptop you name it.

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Post by toofy »

celdon25 wrote: post #810
eru wrote: post #804

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How does owning some bitcoins let you run a powerful LLM?

I take it you've never known anyone who has tried to run even a small consumer AI company. Do you think that they all independently come up with the same censorship rules, despite no law mandating them? Why do you think that is? That they are just that well-thought out that everyone happens to agree with that same intersecting boundary?

please don’t answer in questions. state specifically what you mean so we can discuss what your point is, not guess what it is you’re implying with vague questions.

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Post by beaker52 »

copperx wrote: post #389
aristocrazy wrote: post #312

Given how the WH operates these days, this is ripe for corruption. Imagine the WH dislikes the CEO of a biotech company, while appreciating the attitude of a competitor CEO. What is to stop them from stalling on giving acess for the latest model to the company they don't like?

> ripe for corruption You're two steps behind.

I’m waiting for the “Yes, I was corrupt. I did it to show you all how corrupt a government can be if you let it be”

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Post by bluecalm »

hsuduebc2 wrote: post #814
rzerowan wrote: post #666

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As far as Europe is concerned they have recently signed up to the 'Pax Silica'[1] and willingly givrn the LLM space over to the US incumbents with buildtin legislation banning Chinese models and coperation with them. So EU will be a renter of the LLMs that the US allows them to use. In the long run OpenSource will dominate as it did in the DB(MySQL/Postgres)/ServerOS(Linux/BSDs) versus Proprietery rent seeking alts l…

This is beyond ridiculous. At the same historical turning point when Europeans are finally waking up to the need to become less dependent on their so called US ally for weapons production and security, they are immediately choosing to become dependent on the next layer of critical infrastructure. Instead of learning the obvious lesson, Europe seems ready to purchase the future from whoever Washington allows it to pur…

EU is very lucky USA still has very strict immigration policy. If USA made it easy for highly skilled professionals to emigrate there then there would be almost no one capable left here.

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Post by beaker52 »

someguyornotidk wrote: post #917

I asked this question in another thread [1] but I'll ask it in a different way here: If the US continues to limit advanced AI to it's own domestic companies, US companies will have a large unfair advantage over foreign competitors who will no longer able to compete. Wouldn't it then make sense for governments around the world to start banning or tariffing US products and services to protect their industries? 1: https…

He gotcha: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn4rd71411ko

Trump threatens 100% tariff on European nations over tech tax

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Post by Havoc »

derwiki wrote: post #534
pluc wrote: post #408

It's entertaining watching the whole world take steps to reduce reliance on the US and the US throwing arguments for it out like it's candy

What concrete steps have been taken?

Think it's more of a thousand cuts by individual economic actors situation than one flashy concrete step.

My buying preferences have definitely shifted to "Buy not American" on digital things. Proton, bunny, hetzner, netcup etc.

Some things are harder to move, but the direction of travel is clear

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Post by DrBazza »

joe_mamba wrote: post #907
DrBazza wrote: post #906

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess if the new model has the capability to do 'something' that's national security threat, then this makes sense. Otherwise this move makes zero sense, and actually is a drag on innovation - who wants to invest money and people to make a better model that can't actually be sufficiently sold to make a return on investment? Meanwhile other models from Europe or China that are better steal market share. Though that'…

>Well, there was the kerfuffle around PS3 (IIRC) and 'supercomputers'. There were no export restrictions on the PS3.

I said kerfuffle. I didn’t say ‘export’.

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Post by DrBazza »

xentripetal wrote: post #913
joe_mamba wrote: post #907

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Well, there was the kerfuffle around PS3 (IIRC) and 'supercomputers'. There were no export restrictions on the PS3.

They meant PS2. Japan was worried the processor was powerful enough to control missiles and put restrictions on how many can be sold to a single person and banned certain countries.

I probably did ;)

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Post by microgpt »

noisy_boy wrote: post #864
iAMkenough wrote: post #713

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Until they can’t.

It is as if people can't imagine the concept of sanctions despite their liberal use over the years.

Sanctioning a data file? Did it work for the PGP source code?
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