It's baffling to me that any sane, healthy person would advocate for invasion of not just one person's privacy (in the case of known or highly suspected criminal activity), but a whole country's people's privacy. (In this case, at least, the privacy of all Apple users in the UK.) Where does this problem start? Is it a basic education thing that valuing one's own and others' privacy needs to be taught to kids from a y…
U.K. orders Apple to let it spy on users’ encrypted accounts
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#922It's baffling to me that any sane, healthy person would advocate for invasion of not just one person's privacy (in the case of known or highly suspected criminal activity), but a whole country's people's privacy. (In this case, at least, the privacy of all Apple users in the UK.) Where does this problem start? Is it a basic education thing that valuing one's own and others' privacy needs to be taught to kids from a y…
It baffles me how you seem to think intelligence agencies have some sort of morals or sense of duty to their citizens. These organisations are set up with the sole purpose of spying on all people. They have done it for decades and have done it in some fantasticly dispicable ways. So no, asking a corporation for data on their customers is probably is probably a relatively weak action for them to pull on the grand sche…
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#923Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Musk is a libertarian not an authoritarian. What, your claim is that libertarians suppress speech? Explain why Musk is censoring speech on Twitter. Musk is authoritarian by nature. He always has been. > “Misinformation” is a very subjective word It isn't. It's lies, falsehoods, and untruths. Here are some of the lies Musk has spread: - Lies about Paul Pelosi: https://edition.cnn.com/2022/10/30/business/musk-tweet-p…
Quoting opinion pieces in rags like the Washington Post (owned by Musk's bitter personal rival Jeff Bezos) is not the way for us to come to a consensus on what is true (or not) about Musk.
Many outlets have reported on Musk's LA fires lies. Pick the one you like. Here are some:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnhyatt/2025/01/29/musks-x-pl...
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2025/01/los-angeles-fire...
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/los-angele...
https://www.mediaite.com/news/elon-musk-deletes-tweet-agreei...
https://www.wired.com/story/maga-blaming-dei-california-wild...
Alex Jones loved getting the endorsement from Musk.
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You're assuming that turning off ADP in the U.K. is sufficient to appease the British Government. The Investigatory Powers Act can also be interpreted to give the U.K. the right to ask for encrypted data from users outside of the U.K. (see Apple making this exact point in a filing here [1].) Turning off ADP in the U.K. doesn't end the controversy if that's what's at stake. [1] https://bsky.app/profile/matthewdgreen.b…
It creates a nasty precedent doesn't it? If Apple can provide the UK government with foreign data, what's to stop Russia or China making them provide data on UK minister's phones, or more likely dissidents in exile? I can't see on what basis the government thinks they're going to get to be exceptional here?
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The president has ordered the bureaucracy to ignore the 14th Amendment. You may be blasé about that, and even consider pointing that out to be "misinformation," but I'm not. It's a sign that Constitutional rule in the US is in serious danger. I'm not even going to get into all the other unconstitutional actions Trump has taken, such as appointing Elon Musk to lead the most powerful agency in the federal government wi…
> appointing Elon Musk to lead the most powerful agency in the federal government without Senate advice and consent. You mean this senate? Many of them are not happy with the national debt and are willing to take risks if it gets fixed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BA3ma1MeSIU Senate consent is only required for actual agency posts. Elon's team is just a small part of the USDS which is part of the Office of the Wh…
The Constitution requires Senate advice and consent for all government officials, except minor officials specifically exempted by an act of Congress. Calling Elon Musk and DOGE "just a small part of the USDS" is laughable. You know that isn't true. They have the power to take over and shut down any federal agency they choose. He's not some minor official, and the Constitution is very clear that his position needs Senate approval.
> I didn't see anything that looked illegal there
Shutting down USAID is illegal. The president does not have the authority to arbitrarily shut down federal agencies and to not spend money that Congress has appropriated.
> was advice and consent from the senate obtained for all these billions of taxpayer dollars being wasted and given to other countries
Yes. Why are you even asking this?
> for things that aren't needed?
AIDS patients in Africa don't need antiviral drugs?
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#928I don't think the UK government would try to put Apple out of business if they don't comply it's more likely that they would just get heavily fined until they do so. The most likely outcome, I would guess, is that Apple just stop offering Advanced Data Protection as a service in the UK rather than create some kind of backdoor. It's a weak proposition from the government because anyone with something to hide will just…
Re: U.K. orders Apple to let it spy on users’ encrypted accounts
#929It's baffling to me that any sane, healthy person would advocate for invasion of not just one person's privacy (in the case of known or highly suspected criminal activity), but a whole country's people's privacy. (In this case, at least, the privacy of all Apple users in the UK.) Where does this problem start? Is it a basic education thing that valuing one's own and others' privacy needs to be taught to kids from a y…
Re: U.K. orders Apple to let it spy on users’ encrypted accounts
#930It's baffling to me that any sane, healthy person would advocate for invasion of not just one person's privacy (in the case of known or highly suspected criminal activity), but a whole country's people's privacy. (In this case, at least, the privacy of all Apple users in the UK.) Where does this problem start? Is it a basic education thing that valuing one's own and others' privacy needs to be taught to kids from a y…
Hate to tell ya, those aren't fireable offenses at the highest offices anymore either.