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My 32gb m1 max was probably the best purchase I've made. Still plenty of headroom in performance left in this beast. Wonder what reason they'll use to end software support in the future. Bet it'll be some security hardware they make up for the sake of forcing upgrades.
my tinfoil hat theory is that they make small features depend on new hardware. for example, let's say the new os depends on m5's exclusive thumbnail generator accelerator, and let's say it improves speed by a 20%. now, your M1 notebook than on previous OSes uses standard gpu acceleration for thumbnails will not have this specialized hardware acceleration, it will have software fallback that will be 90% slower. you wo…
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My 32gb m1 max was probably the best purchase I've made. Still plenty of headroom in performance left in this beast. Wonder what reason they'll use to end software support in the future. Bet it'll be some security hardware they make up for the sake of forcing upgrades.
my tinfoil hat theory is that they make small features depend on new hardware. for example, let's say the new os depends on m5's exclusive thumbnail generator accelerator, and let's say it improves speed by a 20%. now, your M1 notebook than on previous OSes uses standard gpu acceleration for thumbnails will not have this specialized hardware acceleration, it will have software fallback that will be 90% slower. you wo…
i wish the new mbp had 256GB of ram :(
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#913I vibed out a comparison of MacBook Pros over the years. 2026 M5 Pro Geekbench scores are an estimate at this point because the data doesn't exist yet. https://sambehrens.github.io/macbook-pro-value/
You need to account for inflation.
We’ve really had it good with these Apple Silicon Mac’s
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Impressive. Four years in and my once €2100 M1 Pro is worth maybe €600.
You can try selling it in Asia (Singapore / Malaysia). You can get a good deal for it there usually if your battery cycle count is low. One thing I really learned is - it's super important to keep the battery cycle count low if you want a good resale value on your machine. I was extremely fortunate enough with the M1 Pro to always use it plugged in because I was constantly worried about not having enough battery when…
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An “intent” is something that a person wants to do - set a timer, get directions, etc. A “slot” is the variable part of an intent. For instance “I want directions to 555 MockingBird Lane”. Would trigger a Directions intent that required where you are coming from and where you are going. Of course in that case it would assume your location. Back in the pre LLM days and the way that Siri still works, someone had to man…
Can you recommend any good resources that discuss structure and performance improvement of these types of systems?
Using LLMs for voice assistants is relatively new at scale that’s the difference between Alexa and Alexa+ and Gemini powered Google Assistant and what Apple has been trying to do with Siri for two years.
It’s really just using LLMs for tool calling. It is just call centers were mostly built before the age of LLMs and companies are slow to update
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#916I vibed out a comparison of MacBook Pros over the years. 2026 M5 Pro Geekbench scores are an estimate at this point because the data doesn't exist yet. https://sambehrens.github.io/macbook-pro-value/
You need to account for inflation.
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Can you recommend any good resources that discuss structure and performance improvement of these types of systems?
Unfortunately, I don’t know of any. Using LLMs for voice assistants is relatively new at scale that’s the difference between Alexa and Alexa+ and Gemini powered Google Assistant and what Apple has been trying to do with Siri for two years. It’s really just using LLMs for tool calling. It is just call centers were mostly built before the age of LLMs and companies are slow to update
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#918I typed “RAM” to search for it and boy they hammer home how lucky I am to be getting 1TB SSD standard, but no mention of RAM anywhere on this page. Anyway, the MacBook Pro starts with 16GB of RAM. It’s $400 to go from 16GB to 32GB. Interestingly, 36-128GB models are showing as “currently unavailable” on the store page, and you can’t even place an order for them right now? But for anyone curious, it’s quoting $5099 fo…
ARM RAM is not like your typical RAM. 16GB will easily run intensive software where you would x2+ on a windows machine. Unless you are planning to do some serious inferencing, or complex multi-agent setup, then you don't need the memory.
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my tinfoil hat theory is that they make small features depend on new hardware. for example, let's say the new os depends on m5's exclusive thumbnail generator accelerator, and let's say it improves speed by a 20%. now, your M1 notebook than on previous OSes uses standard gpu acceleration for thumbnails will not have this specialized hardware acceleration, it will have software fallback that will be 90% slower. you wo…
> my tinfoil hat theory is that they make small features depend on new hardware. The general case is hardly a "tinfoil hat theory". They openly do that, and the major reason is to tie to new hardware adoption. That said, it doesn't usually work like you call it. It's not adding new features depending on HW optimization to slow older machines down (after all one could just not use those features in an older machine, o…
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#920I love the following section of their copy: > Even More Value for Upgraders > The new 14- and 16-inch MacBook Pro with M5 Pro and M5 Max mark a major leap for pro users. There’s never been a better time for customers to upgrade from a previous generation of MacBook Pro with Apple silicon or an Intel-based Mac. I read as "Whoops we made the M1 Macbook Pro too good, please upgrade!" I think I will get another 2-5 years…
I keep telling people that the best laptop value on the market right now is to buy a refurbished MacBook Pro M1/M2. I stand by that from a usability and performance standpoint, but I feel weird about recommending a laptop that could only get security updates for another 3 years.