Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

npr.org

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

911–920 of 1001 posts

Re: Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

#911

Post by selimthegrim »

cogman10 wrote: post #908
_DeadFred_ wrote: post #904

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't have it bookmarked but he did teach that and had his friend Lajevardi whom he supported and praised carry it out. And his Islamic enforcement police regularly engaged in it. And he has defended his Islamic enforcement police the Basij, whose job is to enforce his teachings, when they have conducted systemic rapes. https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201314/cmselect/cmin... Here he is defending the practic…

> I don't have it bookmarked but he did teach that and had his friend Lajevardi whom he supported and praised carry it out. Look, I'm simply not going to believe this claim without evidence. You are presenting terrible practices in Iran that I disagree with, but that wasn't your original claim. From the links you've given, rape was because political prisoners were believed to be slaves. That's a despicable and gross…

I know someone who was in prison with Lajevardi in the 70s and the latter was an asshole even then according to him so I believe this

Re: Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

#912

Post by sieabahlpark »

1a527dd5 wrote: post #86

I wonder how old the rest of the commentators are. I watched the Shock and Awe campaign. I watched Saddam fall. I remember thinking this is great. Years later, I understand it was a complete folly. Removing Saddam in itself was good but what it did the wider region was not good.

[dead]

Re: Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

#913

Post by nerdyadventurer »

_DeadFred_ wrote: post #738
nerdyadventurer wrote: post #625

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If people keep their mouth shut when a regime murders 30 000+ This is done by diaspora lead by US, they started destroying public resources first and created public unrest on top of falling Rial due to sanctions, this lead the govt take matters in to their hands. Cunning US indeed, always playing cheap tricks. US is a regime too, world largest one, with minions everywhere. They murdered around 1 million just in Ira…

The theocratic regime that rapes then kills school girls for not wearing hats was forced to gun down 30,000 of their own citizens, including many more school children. The Supreme Leader before Khamenei preached that virgins need to be raped before execution so that they can't go to heaven. Sick people following a sick religion where their made up version of god would judge children based on if they were raped.

What about children and mothers in Gaza, I think that is okay with you!

Let's see what happen when they start bombing Greenland.

I hate violence, but US have too much power, they are in this war for their benefit. Looting others resources as usual.

Re: Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

#914

Post by prewett »

deaux wrote: post #269
wfdsf2 wrote: post #199

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One thing I notice on here is very few people understand counter intuitive stuff. As you said.. plenty of evidence where on the surface it seems good. But in reality it turns out to make the people in the region worse off.

That, combined with extreme short-termism and unbridled optimism. All three probably having a similar root cause. And we see this across the board. A canonical one that remains prevalent: "If only people would've come out and voted for Kamala in 2024, we wouldn't be in this mess". But then if you follow the pattern, with the candidate she was and what she would've done, this would've secured an ultra-MAGA victory in…

> Almost anything that China does is based on long-term consequences.

I'm not sure that's the case with Xi. Well, I wouldn't be surprised if he tries, but as far as I can tell from a distance, his value system produces unwise decisions long-term. 10+ years of Xi have slowed economic growth, produced antagonism diplomatically, I'm not sure that the Belt and Road is currently seen favorably. He hasn't figured out a way for local governments to be solvent without selling property, nor has he resolved the shadow debt. I think his policy of shutting down Shanghai and other zero-Covid polices destroyed the people's confidence in the CCP as steward of economic growth, as it became obvious that the government can just arbitrarily kill your business and imprison you in your own home or Covid center. I think that removing your top military leaders--who are the only ones with any actual combat experience--is helpful for a successful occupation of Taiwan. Certainly what Xi did with Hong Kong made peaceful re-unification with Taiwan very unlikely.

Re: Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

#915

Post by prewett »

hyperman1 wrote: post #508
jordanb wrote: post #498

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Weirdly Europe and even Canada seem to be completely onboard with all this..

That's not how I am reading this. Here, the reaction seems mostly that Europe doesn't want to touch this mess. Which is weird, as Iran was clearly on our list of bad countries and Israel can do nothing wrong. Local news publishes articles of Iranians in our countries being happy, political commenters indicating it can go both ways, and not much comments from politicians.

I can totally see why Europe doesn't want to touch this! I'm assuming that Europe doesn't mind the results, but also finds the means legitimately concerning. But they aren't in a position to do anything about the latter, so issue statements of concern about unilateral action, and quietly be relieved that somebody else gets stuck with the stigma.

Re: Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

#916

Post by whyage »

whyage wrote: post #856
sosomoxie wrote: post #841

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Israel of course, I'm sorry I thought that was clear. I do not shy away from stating the obvious.

So Israel is at fault of the Iranian government slaughtering 30,000 of its citizens just last month?

Oh, so the Iranian government didn't shoot its own citizens en masse? It's just Zionist propaganda? Interesting

Re: Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

#917

Post by FireBeyond »

rcxdude wrote: post #905
thejazzman wrote: post #874

Earlier quoted context omitted.

to be fair, the prior respondent did seem to agree with the word 'murder' so perhaps we're all ultimately in agreement about what happened :|

if it's self-defence then more or less by definition it isn't murder.

Who said it was self defense? ICE, within minutes? Trump, within minutes?

Despite blatantly contradictory video?

Re: Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

#918

Post by dotancohen »

tomjakubowski wrote: post #819
dotancohen wrote: post #620

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[flagged]

> Muslims who move to Christian-majority lands do not assimilate this is a ridiculous and false generalization, disproved by my own experience living in the United States and being friends with Muslim immigrants.

That's what the French and the a Swedes thought when they had a Muslim population under 10 or 20 percent. Look at any area - any, your choice - where Muslims represent 50 or more or the population and tell me how tolerant they are.

Don't let your values and your tolerance blind you to believe that your values and tolerance are universal or axiomic.

Re: Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

#919

Post by dotancohen »

EtienneDeLyon wrote: post #782
maybelsyrup wrote: post #709

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But as one whom the Ayatollah has sworn to eliminate What does this mean — did you stick him with the bill at all restaurant or something?

He's doing what's called "Hasbara". Regular people call it "lying".

Please quote which part of my comment you feel is a lie.

Re: Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

#920

Post by MichaelRo »

selimthegrim wrote: post #909
MichaelRo wrote: post #828

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In Romania it took some 10 years to reach some degree of functional democracy after the fall of communism and the execution on Ceaușescu, who coincidentally, just returned from the crowning of Khamenei, while learning, dictator-to-dictator, how to suppress a revolution: 1006 killed, though most of them not by the initial "Revolutionary Guards" reprisal but in the semi-civil war that followed. And that in a country/re…

Bosnia and Herzegovina, Albania and Kosovo won’t get into the EU?

Forgot they aren't already in EU.
Post reply on HN